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Covcath-Holmes predictions

Who wins? 72 members have voted

  1. 1. Who wins?

    • Covcath
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    • Holmes
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:thumb: Your post makes sense to me.

 

It's surprising that Covington Catholic's QB coach is a former lineman. Very surprising, actually.

 

What I don't get is using Van Sant at QB if Isler (who is obviously the #1 QB) is going to be out for a few more weeks. If you're going to put Van Sant at QB without an intent to throw the ball, save it for the playoffs so opposing teams won't be able to prepare for it.

 

You still have receivers who need to run routes. You don't stop what you are doing. All coaches hold back, but they all have a routine game plan. You stick to your basics and add at the end, I never believe that you should pull back.

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You are dead wrong; the staff has tried every combination possible at numerous positions trying to get more production; the team wilts when it gets hit in the mouth; the seniors need to step up!!

 

I have to disagree on this. I think Young is great kid and he hasn't given up on playing and I certainly don't wont to get down on the young man. He throws a nice ball, but he just doesn't have the arm or the size to compete at this level. Also, he has a tendency to get picked. Last year, he took most of the snaps in the JV games, but never really seemed to develop. He had many games in which he threw numerous interceptions.

 

IMO, instead of having Van Sant line up at QB he should be used in the backfield with Deters in an I or split set. Use their huge line to create space and let the defense try to defend Van Sant on the run or pass. They should also give Erpenbeck the call at QB and just let him play. He has a strong arm, has good size, runs well and is accurate. Last year when he did get a chance to play JV, he was able to move the team and made good decisions. Without being disrespectful, I understand that coaching at CCH is difficult, but the CovCath coaching staff has no idea how to develop QB's. This year the QB coach is a former lineman.

 

I have, in past post, suggested that the coaches should be given a break, but this makes no sense to me. To have Van Sant taking snaps when he has not played the position in high school seems more like a gimick than a solution to the problem, especially when there are much better alternatives.

 

There a many talented players on that team that just seemed to be overlooked...I could be wrong but it sure seems that way.

CCHs backup QB had hardly completed a pass and was possibly needed for the next week to beat an unknown St. Charles team; he needed to have some success!

 

Holmes had just gone for it on 4th down, so they had not conceded victory by punting or putting in their backups!!!

 

24-0- running up the score????????????????

 

Some need to watch a little more football; I have never heard anything more ridiculous in my life!

 

Interesting to see how the commentators commented on the situation repeatedly. I wasn't at the game, but it seems that Cov Cath should have taken the knee in that situation. But, as for the game I just see Cov Cath as having too much for the dawgs, but I think the game has the possibility to be a close one.

 

Holmes: 14

Cov Cath: 28

Inspite of early promise, its been another dissapointing season for the Bulldogs. CCH has been on the short side of some lopesided scores, but they can name it in this one.

CCHs backup QB had hardly completed a pass and was possibly needed for the next week to beat an unknown St. Charles team; he needed to have some success!

 

Holmes had just gone for it on 4th down, so they had not conceded victory by punting or putting in their backups!!!

 

24-0- running up the score????????????????

 

Some need to watch a little more football; I have never heard anything more ridiculous in my life!

 

So then why do you think CovCath AD Mike Guidugli apologized to the Holmes coaching staff after the game?

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CCHs backup QB had hardly completed a pass and was possibly needed for the next week to beat an unknown St. Charles team; he needed to have some success!

 

Holmes had just gone for it on 4th down, so they had not conceded victory by punting or putting in their backups!!!

 

24-0- running up the score????????????????

 

Some need to watch a little more football; I have never heard anything more ridiculous in my life!

 

24-0 is in no way running up the score. The point is, why would you pass on 1st and goal when you're up 17-0 with 1:30 to go?

 

The Covcath A.D apologized to the Holmes coach because that was a classless act by the CCH coach that called the play. A lot of coaches would have just taken 3 knees and ran the time out in that situation.

So then why do you think CovCath AD Mike Guidugli apologized to the Holmes coaching staff after the game?

 

Maybe because Mike has never to the best of my knowledge coached or played football beyond youth league and doesn't understand a thing about the sport: like the need to get better for the next game by doing things in the current game. If Lickert was upset about it, that is so unlike Lickert. I figure Steve is the kind of guy, cut from Mueller's cloth, that says it was his team's responsibility to stop the completion. Hopefully Steve used the completion as an opportunity to improve the technique of his defensive backs the next week in practice. I can guarantee you this: CovCath taking a knee three straight times wouldn't have improved Holmes defense one dang bit.

 

When Colerain was driving the ball with minutes left in the game this year, up by 15, and still driving the score, I was totally fine with it as it allowed our players more opportunities to get better for the next game. Colerain taking a knee would not have given our players that opportunity. Further, I would have considered it the ultimate insult to our players.

The USA today wrote a story about a team running the single wing in Virginia and averaging over 40 a game doing it. They're ranked, I believe, 18th in the country. If Van Sant is truly going to be the QB, the single wing maybe something to look into as a change of pace. I'm sure that a kid that athletic can complete enough passes to keep the D honest.

You are dead wrong; the staff has tried every combination possible at numerous positions trying to get more production; the team wilts when it gets hit in the mouth; the seniors need to step up!!

 

I hope I am dead wrong. I will be the first to admit it if I am, but "the seniors need to step up!!" is exactly what was said last year. Anyway, I meant no disrespect to the coaches, just putting the thought out there for discussion.

I hope I am dead wrong. I will be the first to admit it if I am, but "the seniors need to step up!!" is exactly what was said last year. Anyway, I meant no disrespect to the coaches, just putting the thought out there for discussion.

 

Last years group had to replace 19 starters, and they did step up even turning around a lopsided loss to Dixie; Highlands was a better team last season that CCH could not handle in the playoffs especially without their heart and soul on defense- Joe Bruggeman.

 

This year's group sits around and waits for a spark- vs. NCC they were struggling and Van Sant made a play- the whole team got inspired and they made a great come back. In their other losses they have waited and no one has stepped up.

 

Those of you who want to blame it on the coaches really and I mean really don't have a clue; there are no Sam Flynns, Joe Castenadas, Brandon Brown, Pete Suttons (Van Sant could be), Josh Blesers, or Nate Kaders on this years or last years team- needless to say no Mike Woolfs, Timmy Woolfs, Jeremy Maddens, Paul Hladons, etc, etc, etc.

 

You sound like disgruntled players who didnt get their playing time or parents who think their son is the greatest...

 

I have seen 3 coaches at CCH in my years and Brossart's system is as sound as Coach Ray's, is it as flashy as Rodenberg's- no because he doesn't have the aforementioned talent-do they have some talent-yes but they need to get tougher!!!!!!

Last years group had to replace 19 starters, and they did step up even turning around a lopsided loss to Dixie; Highlands was a better team last season that CCH could not handle in the playoffs especially without their heart and soul on defense- Joe Bruggeman.

 

This year's group sits around and waits for a spark- vs. NCC they were struggling and Van Sant made a play- the whole team got inspired and they made a great come back. In their other losses they have waited and no one has stepped up.

 

Those of you who want to blame it on the coaches really and I mean really don't have a clue; there are no Sam Flynns, Joe Castenadas, Brandon Brown, Pete Suttons (Van Sant could be), Josh Blesers, or Nate Kaders on this years or last years team- needless to say no Mike Woolfs, Timmy Woolfs, Jeremy Maddens, Paul Hladons, etc, etc, etc.

 

You sound like disgruntled players who didnt get their playing time or parents who think their son is the greatest...

 

I have seen 3 coaches at CCH in my years and Brossart's system is as sound as Coach Ray's, is it as flashy as Rodenberg's- no because he doesn't have the aforementioned talent-do they have some talent-yes but they need to get tougher!!!!!!

 

That's the best I have heard it put so far. :ylsuper::ylsuper:

Last years group had to replace 19 starters, and they did step up even turning around a lopsided loss to Dixie; Highlands was a better team last season that CCH could not handle in the playoffs especially without their heart and soul on defense- Joe Bruggeman.

 

This year's group sits around and waits for a spark- vs. NCC they were struggling and Van Sant made a play- the whole team got inspired and they made a great come back. In their other losses they have waited and no one has stepped up.

 

Those of you who want to blame it on the coaches really and I mean really don't have a clue; there are no Sam Flynns, Joe Castenadas, Brandon Brown, Pete Suttons (Van Sant could be), Josh Blesers, or Nate Kaders on this years or last years team- needless to say no Mike Woolfs, Timmy Woolfs, Jeremy Maddens, Paul Hladons, etc, etc, etc.

 

You sound like disgruntled players who didnt get their playing time or parents who think their son is the greatest...

 

I have seen 3 coaches at CCH in my years and Brossart's system is as sound as Coach Ray's, is it as flashy as Rodenberg's- no because he doesn't have the aforementioned talent-do they have some talent-yes but they need to get tougher!!!!!!

 

You need to back off a little bit. I am not blaming anyone and I am not disgruntled. I just made the oberservation that the QB spot is somewhat week without Ice and at times inconsistent when he is healthy. Also, there doesn't appear to be any consistent effort to develop a solid backup at this time. Maybe that will change with the Frosh and Jr High teams. It appears coach Brossart is doing a fine job in that regard. This is a discussion forum and I am putting my thoughts out there. Also, inferring that the seniors are tanking this season is no different than others blaming the coaches...just the flip side of the argument. Ultimately, you need to remember that these are kids playing under a lot of pressure. The coaches on the other hand are adults and it is their job to connect with the kids and get them to play to their potential. I am not saying I could do it better...just trying to figure it out.

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