You are taking that post way out of context when you use it to support the "too much is never enough" comment. That post, made by a knowledgeable football fan from Highlands, was made to support his belief that the refs missed some calls. I didn't post on that issue but he's definitely right about some bad calls being made. And you know what, I was okay with the calls because I think the refs were trying to make sure the game didn't get more out of hand and that they wanted Scott to feel the joy of scoring. Heck, I was actually rooting for Scott to score (sorry Highlands players :laugh:) so I was okay with the, lets shall we say, phantom face masks and missed blocks in the back. Others will disagree with me and fairly say the refs shouldn't let those considerations affect their calls, and the poster you quoted no doubt is one of those people. But he definitely does not fall into the "too much is never enough" category.

 

I think there's a misperception that the refs, in lopsided games, start "feeling sorry" for the team on the short end of the scoreboard. The reality is that both coaches will usually tell the refs to "keep your flag in your pocket, keep the clock moving, and get me out of here without any injuries or ejections". Frequently, a coach will also tell me to not let their team score again.

 

The best way to keep the clock moving is to keep the losing team on offense where they can take too much time calling the play, get generous first down spots, and eat up the clock while keeping them off of defense where cheap shots are more likely to occur. Sometimes these measures work, and sometimes (as in the case of the 91-0 game) they still aren't enough.

 

This does not occur in college or pro games; the objectives of the game are different there. Please keep that in mind.

For some fans, too much is never enough. Here's a quote from a thread about a recent game:

 

"I know everyone is going to say "They won by 54!" That's not the point. The point is, the refs must call a fair game on both sides of the ball and there was a clear block in the back right in front of the ref among other calls that should have been called against (the losing team) that weren't. If I were (the head coach of the winning team), I would write a formal complaint to the KHSAA. At one point, it was like 5 penalties in a row (to help the losing team) get inside the 5 yard line.

 

I guess life ain't always fair when you only win by 54.

 

I don't appreciate being misquoted.

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WOW.

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I think there's a misperception that the refs, in lopsided games, start "feeling sorry" for the team on the short end of the scoreboard. The reality is that both coaches will usually tell the refs to "keep your flag in your pocket, keep the clock moving, and get me out of here without any injuries or ejections". Frequently, a coach will also tell me to not let their team score again.

 

The best way to keep the clock moving is to keep the losing team on offense where they can take too much time calling the play, get generous first down spots, and eat up the clock while keeping them off of defense where cheap shots are more likely to occur. Sometimes these measures work, and sometimes (as in the case of the 91-0 game) they still aren't enough.

 

This does not occur in college or pro games; the objectives of the game are different there. Please keep that in mind.

 

You're probably right that it is a misconception, but its something that I thought was there, probably because as a fan, I start feeling sorry for teams getting beaten badly. I just assume that the refs feel the same way I do. And I'm sure you are right about the coaches talking to the refs to keep the games going. I really think the coach of the team winning big often feels as bad about the game as the coach of the losing team. Which certainly seemed to be the case with the Florida schools.

 

By the way, thanks for reffing. It is greatly appreciated. :thumb:

You're probably right that it is a misconception, but its something that I thought was there, probably because as a fan, I start feeling sorry for teams getting beaten badly. I just assume that the refs feel the same way I do. And I'm sure you are right about the coaches talking to the refs to keep the games going. I really think the coach of the team winning big often feels as bad about the game as the coach of the losing team. Which certainly seemed to be the case with the Florida schools.

 

By the way, thanks for reffing. It is greatly appreciated. :thumb:

 

Thanks for understanding.

Sure; multiple times. And again, I'm okay with what I think the refs did (subconsciously or not). I don't think they failed to call any "safety fouls" and I don't think they necessarily tried to allow a team to score. But you and I both know there is a lot of subjective judgment that goes into making some calls and I think its only human nature that you give a team the benefit of the doubt when they are losing bad (which I am totally fine with). You may disagree and heck you may be totally right about that. I just don't have any problem with it if it does happen. And the real point of my post was not in any way to criticize refs (I'm one of the last people that will do that because I truly appreciate their contributions to high school athletics) even when they do miss a call.

 

And they do occassionally miss calls and most of them will own up to it. Case in point. When we played Colerain, towards the end of the game, Roller went up high between two defenders; one in front and one behind him. He out jumped them and when he came down with the ball on their one yard line, he was on top of the defender that had been behind him. Other than his feet, his body never touched the ground. He quickly and in one motion as he was laying on top of the defender, stretched the ball over the goal line. The ref said he was down at the 1. I was standing in the endzone and calmly said in a normal speaking voice: "Hey ref, the reciever was never down because he was on top of the defender". Fortunately, the Birds scored on the next play. As the teams were taking the field for the subsequent kick off, he walked over to me and said: "you were right. I blew that call". I said "no worry we eventually scored". He said that didn't matter and that he was upset that he blew the call. I appreciated him taking responsibility for the blown call and I think he appreciated that I wasn't yelling and screaming at him for missing the call. Heck of a nice guy.

 

The point of my first post in this thread was to simply point out that the post quoted was not in the context of "too much is never enough". Hope we're good.

 

It takes a mature person to admit that he blew a call. I too appreciate the ref's honesty and candor. As Offiside stated, I believe that in games that are considered "blow outs," refs probably have a tendency to give the losing team the benefit of the doubt. Too bad it's just limited to high school football. I bet more people wish the NFL refs felt sorry for those poor BUNGLES and gave those losers the benefit of the doubt! GO PITTSBURGH! :dancingpa

Just some food for thought Georgia Tech beat Cumberland University, TN (NAIA) 222-0 in 1916. That IS amazing!

Just some food for thought Georgia Tech beat Cumberland University, TN (NAIA) 222-0 in 1916. That IS amazing!

And is, and will remain, the largest margin of victory in college football. Do you know the story behind that score?

And is, and will remain, the largest margin of victory in college football. Do you know the story behind that score?

 

"As a general rule, the only thing necessary for a touchdown was to give a Tech back the ball and holler, ‘Here he comes’ and ‘There he goes.’ "--Atlanta Journal-Constitution

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1916_Cumberland_vs._Georgia_Tech_football_game

 

Tech had over 900 yards rushing, and ZERO passing yards. Cumberland had 15 turnovers.

 

http://www2.cumberland.edu/about/gotc/gamestory.html

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I'm not sure. I did notice that they only ran 31 offensive plays. That is unbelievable.

 

That is insane, the other team must have just kept kicking them the ball.:eek:

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Well in that day and time, keeping track of players was not easy, and apparently Georgia came to Cumberland for a baseball game. Cumberland recruited some minor league baseball players to play against Georgia, and beat them.

 

The same coach that coached Georgia's baseball team, also coached Georgia's football team. So, when Cumberland came to Georgia for a football game, Georgia had no mercy and beat them soundly.

Well in that day and time, keeping track of players was not easy, and apparently Georgia came to Cumberland for a baseball game. Cumberland recruited some minor league baseball players to play against Georgia, and beat them.

 

The same coach that coached Georgia's baseball team, also coached Georgia's football team. So, when Cumberland came to Georgia for a football game, Georgia had no mercy and beat them soundly.

 

Notice the name of that coach? Heisman

Notice the name of that coach? Heisman

He knew a thing or two about football.

"As a general rule, the only thing necessary for a touchdown was to give a Tech back the ball and holler, ‘Here he comes’ and ‘There he goes.’ "--Atlanta Journal-Constitution

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1916_Cumberland_vs._Georgia_Tech_football_game

 

Tech had over 900 yards rushing, and ZERO passing yards. Cumberland had 15 turnovers.

 

http://www2.cumberland.edu/about/gotc/gamestory.html

 

Sounds like the stats from a typical West VA Tech, Mid South Conference game.

Sounds like the stats from a typical West VA Tech, Mid South Conference game.

 

:lol::lol::lol: I know a couple of guys who played at West Va Tech. It was in the early 80's when they were more of a .500 win team.