At worst legalized for medicinal purposes.

 

I've been to Amsterdam, and could make arguments for both sides on decriminalization...

 

I would like to see a whole thread devoted to you arguing against yourself. That would be very entertaining.:thumb:

The A-No. 1 reason for legalizing weed is to clear out the prisons, and reduce the taxpayer expenditure of keeping non-violent offenders in prison. Too many people are locked up on ridiculous third-strike and other such anti-weed laws that it's clogging up our court and prison systems. It's simply a waste of taxpayer money when you weigh the inherent danger to society of pot dealers and pot users against the expense of pursuing and locking them up.

 

Could you not accomplish this by keeping it illegal but by using the ankle bracelets and have them locked up at home?

Legalizing marijuana would allow the government to tax it and make money off of it.

 

 

I find it very interesting that those who take this stance think that somehow when it becomes legal that all of those criminals that presently break the law by selling it will all of a sudden become law abiding citizens and pay their taxes on it.

 

I can see the pothead's thought process now....

 

Well I know I didn't follow the law when it was illegal to sell it but now that it is legal, I guess I should follow the law and take part of my profits and pay my taxes. hey, where are the twinkies.

I find it very interesting that those who take this stance think that somehow when it becomes legal that all of those criminals that presently break the law by selling it will all of a sudden become law abiding citizens and pay their taxes on it.

 

I can see the pothead's thought process now....

 

Well I know I didn't follow the law when it was illegal to sell it but now that it is legal, I guess I should follow the law and take part of my profits and pay my taxes. hey, where are the twinkies.

 

You're missing the point. If it was legal, the majority of dealers would be out of business. It wouldn't be up to them to pay their taxes on it, because they wouldn't be making any money from it. It'd be available at gas stations or other stores.

Legalizing marijuana would allow the government to tax it and make money off of it.

 

 

I find it very interesting that those who take this stance think that somehow when it becomes legal that all of those criminals that presently break the law by selling it will all of a sudden become law abiding citizens and pay their taxes on it.

 

I can see the pothead's thought process now....

 

Well I know I didn't follow the law when it was illegal to sell it but now that it is legal, I guess I should follow the law and take part of my profits and pay my taxes. hey, where are the twinkies.

 

I'm not arguing your point because I think you have valid concerns on legalization. This is an honest observation and question :

 

Alcohol and tobacco are both legal "drugs" that are sold and heavily taxed. How often do you hear of police raiding a drug house and seizing pounds of tobacco and gallons of home made liquor that dealers had planed on selling ? How often do you see police arresting people for selling homemade beer ? In my 23 years of existence on this planet, I've not once had a person walk up to me and try to sell me a can of beer he made from the inside of his jacket. It just doesn't happen.

 

Never, right ? Why is that ? Because large corporations can produce a better tasting alcohol, a smoother cigarette and so on at a cheaper price than your average Joe can make in his back yard.

 

What if we were to make tobacco and alcohol illegal ? I'm sure the above scenarios would occur on a daily basis.

 

My question is, what makes you think the drug dealers would be able to compete with the larger companies who would be producing mass amounts of pot ? In my opinion, they wouldn't be able to. They would be forced to A) stop dealing. B) Move on to another product.

Legalizing marijuana would allow the government to tax it and make money off of it.

 

 

 

I'm not arguing your point because I think you have valid concerns on legalization. This is an honest observation and question :

 

Alcohol and tobacco are both legal "drugs" that are sold and heavily taxed. How often do you hear of police raiding a drug house and seizing pounds of tobacco and gallons of home made liquor that dealers had planed on selling ? How often do you see police arresting people for selling homemade beer ? In my 23 years of existence on this planet, I've not once had a person walk up to me and try to sell me a can of beer he made from the inside of his jacket. It just doesn't happen.

 

Never, right ? Why is that ? Because large corporations can produce a better tasting alcohol, a smoother cigarette and so on at a cheaper price than your average Joe can make in his back yard.

 

What if we were to make tobacco and alcohol illegal ? I'm sure the above scenarios would occur on a daily basis.

 

My question is, what makes you think the drug dealers would be able to compete with the larger companies who would be producing mass amounts of pot ? In my opinion, they wouldn't be able to. They would be forced to A) stop dealing. B) Move on to another product.

 

Are you suggesting then that those drug dealers rather than getting a respectable job would move on to peddle another drug, maybe a more dangerous drug as another product and we could see an increase in the drug trade of harder and more dangerous drugs?

Lot of bootleggers that sold beer out of their trailer in Corbin and Woodbine.

 

When? Presently?

Are you suggesting then that those drug dealers rather than getting a respectable job would move on to peddle another drug, maybe a more dangerous drug as another product and we could see an increase in the drug trade of harder and more dangerous drugs?

 

That's a possibility, not a certainty, but a possibility.

 

I feel that more marijuana dealers would be put out of business and actually attempt to get a real job.

 

Here's the thing with people who deal weed. They usually only deal weed because they it carries a much smaller punishment than dealing other drugs.It's also much easier to obtain. Heck, you can grow it in your back yard or basement and sell it for profit. How many pot dealers could make a prescription pill at home and sell it ? A lot of college kids for example who smoke it will sell it for a little week to week money.

 

The people pushing cocaine and your harder drugs are going to deal no matter what is kept illegal and what is made illegal.

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Lot of bootleggers that sold beer out of their trailer in Corbin and Woodbine.

 

Bootlegging is typically a product of location and availability.

 

Grayson, KY has a ton of bootleggers. It's because the closest place to get beer in Grayson would be from Ashland, a 30-45 minute drive.

I also wanted to say that I'm not a pot head. I haven't touched an illegal drug in 5 or 6 years. I just think some of the laws we have are a little silly.

 

I'm all for having less laws but actually enforcing the ones we have.

 

Are you suggesting then that those drug dealers rather than getting a respectable job would move on to peddle another drug, maybe a more dangerous drug as another product and we could see an increase in the drug trade of harder and more dangerous drugs?

 

No, that is not what I'm suggesting. I do recognize that it is a possibility, although unlikely.

 

I'm assuming that you're a believer of the theory that marijuana is a gateway drug? And that those who smoke marijuana tend to get into other, more hardcore drugs?

When? Presently?

 

Sure. This is Kentucky, where the majority of the 120 counties are dry. There are thriving bootlegging businesses in those counties, where guys sell cases of beer and fifths of whisky for $25 a pop.

Sure. This is Kentucky, where the majority of the 120 counties are dry. There are thriving bootlegging businesses in those counties, where guys sell cases of beer and fifths of whisky for $25 a pop.

 

I understand. But LBBC's post was in the past tense, so I was unsure when he was talking about. I've heard there was a period of time where all alcohol was banned. Could you imagine?

 

I'm assuming that those who refer to dope dealers (and smokers) as criminals will just as quickly label bootleggers as criminals who don't want to pay taxes either.

I was in Amsterdam in 1986 with a group traveling from Germany. They deal drugs right out on the street. They just open up their coats. Scared the crap out of me because I got separated from my group while we were trying to cross the street.

I was in Amsterdam in 1986 with a group traveling from Germany. They deal drugs right out on the street. They just open up their coats. Scared the crap out of me because I got separated from my group while we were trying to cross the street.

 

 

I'm not sure if this was supposed to be a joke or not, but you've got me rollin'. :lol: