So, who is more important to keep locked up? Pedophiles or pot users, DUI drivers, and non-support fathers?

I'm freeing the pot heads!

I agree that current felons shouldn't be allowed to vote. But once you'd paid your debt, shouldn't basic civil liberties be restored?

 

No.

 

You're still a felon.

We don't allow felons to hold certain jobs. If we allow them to vote, we may as well allow them to have any position at any place of work they are qualified for.

3 joints, 10 joints, 45 joints, 100 and 1/2 joints. When is the felony going to kick in? If I carry 2 and the law says 3, I could sell 150 a day as long as I never had more than 2 on me at any given time and only got caught selling the 2. Limit should be 0. Marijuana is still illegal.

Another thing, I know that some crimes are not as bad as others, but crime is crime and you should think before doing for that exact reason. Murder and non-payment are not the same, but there should be punishment for both.

We don't allow felons to hold certain jobs. If we allow them to vote, we may as well allow them to have any position at any place of work they are qualified for.

 

 

We don't allow people who can't read to teach school, but they're still allowed to vote.

We don't allow people who can't read to teach school, but they're still allowed to vote.

 

Very true.

 

However, we don't say "In no way can you ever be a teacher because at this moment, and before this moment, you could not read". If those people decide to learn to read, they are more than welcome to attend college and obtain a teaching degree.

 

It's different.

 

Actually you bring up something that has always puzzled me RM.

 

I understand it's our right and it's the patriotic thing to do, but why do we allow everyone to vote ? My younger sister is a great example. 18 years old, fresh out of high school, wouldn't know McCain if he walked up and smacked her in the face. She's voting this year and that scares me. That's probably for another thread though.

Yes, he should have stopped at Homeland Security.

 

Yes sir!:thumb::thumb::thumb:

And just out of curiousity, what standard and criteria will you be using to determine if they are "reformed criminals?"

None. My point is that if a convicted felon has served his or her time, then they should be free to enjoy the same constitutional rights as anybody else. Hardened criminals do not obey gun laws anyway. If the prison system is not reforming criminals, then the system needs to be reformed by extending sentences for violent criminals.

None. My point is that if a convicted felon has served his or her time, then they should be free to enjoy the same constitutional rights as anybody else. Hardened criminals do not obey gun laws anyway. If the prison system is not reforming criminals, then the system needs to be reformed by extending sentences for violent criminals.

 

 

Wow! We agree on something! :lol: :thumb:

Very true.

 

However, we don't say "In no way can you ever be a teacher because at this moment, and before this moment, you could not read". If those people decide to learn to read, they are more than welcome to attend college and obtain a teaching degree.

 

It's different.

 

Actually you bring up something that has always puzzled me RM.

 

I understand it's our right and it's the patriotic thing to do, but why do we allow everyone to vote ? My younger sister is a great example. 18 years old, fresh out of high school, wouldn't know McCain if he walked up and smacked her in the face. She's voting this year and that scares me. That's probably for another thread though.

 

Because of 2 things in my mind.

 

1) In the not too distant past there were restrictions on who got to vote (See Jim Crow Laws). That stain remains and is probably why it is best to err on "everyone of a certain age and beyond voting" rather than find ways to have eligibility. Sooner or later someone will manipulate the eligibility to his or her gain.

 

2) Until 1971 (?) the voting age was 21. It was lowered because many felt it hypocritical that we could draft young men at 18 to serve and even die for our country but they weren't old enough to vote and influence the policies that sent them to their service.