I doubt Hagel's qualifications to be judging anyone's qualifications. He's got his own agenda.

I doubt Hagel's qualifications to be judging anyone's qualifications. He's got his own agenda.

 

Tell us what you know about Hagel's qualifications.

Tell us what you know about Hagel's qualifications.

And his agenda ...

To coin a phrase I've seen here on occasion...

 

link, please?

Oh, come on. You're referencing a comment that I made in a different thread in which you DID comment on Obama's "muslim connections". You can't have it one way in one thread and then say "I never mentioned..." in another.

 

You're correct about one thing. For some people, the mention of Christmas brings to mind Santa Claus and presents. Evidently that is what you thought of when I made my comment. Now I see where you are coming from. To me, the first mention of Christmas (and in referencing it) is a celebration of Christ's life. My comments on Obama celebrating Christmas stems from he and his family attending a Christian church on Christmas Eve for purposes of celebrating the birth of Christ, not to decorate a pine tree. Muslim's don't celebrate the birth of Christ. It's silly for some people to think that they do.

 

 

Obama does have Muslim connections. You and other Obamaites drew the conclusion that I was saying he is a Muslim. The Christian church he attended for 20 years was pastored by a raving lunatic. There is only one qualification for being a Christian and celebrating the birth of Christ or attending church isn't it.

 

Like I said I don't believe he is Muslim. I know he is supports abortion and gay marriages which to me is much worse. I don't know of many Christian churches that share his beliefs on these issues.

Obama does have Muslim connections. You and other Obamaites drew the conclusion that I was saying he is a Muslim. The Christian church he attended for 20 years was pastored by a raving lunatic. There is only one qualification for being a Christian and celebrating the birth of Christ or attending church isn't it.

 

Like I said I don't believe he is Muslim. I know he is supports abortion and gay marriages which to me is much worse. I don't know of many Christian churches that share his beliefs on these issues.

 

Most don't support/promote multiple marriages either, but McCain is on his second marriage...and applied for his 2nd wedding license before his first divorce was final. Surely that doesn't mean that he is not Christian?

 

A church is much more then its pastor.

 

And on the bolded part...the logical conclusion from your post is that someone cannot be pro-choice or support gay marriage and be a Christian. Is that the correct conclusion from your post?

Most don't support/promote multiple marriages either, but McCain is on his second marriage...and applied for his 2nd wedding license before his first divorce was final. Surely that doesn't mean that he is not Christian?

 

A church is much more then its pastor.

 

And on the bolded part...the logical conclusion from your post is that someone cannot be pro-choice or support gay marriage and be a Christian. Is that the correct conclusion from your post?

 

Your reaching. I agree that a church is more than it's pastor but if you sit in a pastors congregation for 20 years then I think it is safe to say that you agree with him.

 

I believe that it would be impossible to believe that the Bible is without error and inspired by God himself and support homosexuality and abortion.

Your reaching. I agree that a church is more than it's pastor but if you sit in a pastors congregation for 20 years then I think it is safe to say that you agree with him.

 

I believe that it would be impossible to believe that the Bible is without error and inspired by God himself and support homosexuality and abortion.

 

Not all Christians believe this.

 

As for the first part, I don't want to rehash the whole Rev. Wright argument again. It's safe to say that we have only seen snippets of Wright's sermons.

 

In a previous post, you mentioned that there was ONE qualification in order to be a Christian...for you, what is that?

Why because he made a speech in Germany? LOL.:banana:

 

Don't forget he also played the board games "Risk" and "Stratego" as a child which as we all know translates into considerable foreign policy experience.

Don't forget he also played the board games "Risk" and "Stratego" as a child which as we all know translates into considerable foreign policy experience.

I disagree. The nature of the game of "Stratego" points more to military command experience than foreign policy.

I disagree. The nature of the game of "Stratego" points more to military command experience than foreign policy.

 

I was going to omit Stratego from my previous post but I so loved both Risk and Stratego as a child/young adult. Hey, at least I didn't use Battleship as an example. Now, that would have been uttterly indefensible.

Not all Christians believe this.

 

As for the first part, I don't want to rehash the whole Rev. Wright argument again. It's safe to say that we have only seen snippets of Wright's sermons.

 

In a previous post, you mentioned that there was ONE qualification in order to be a Christian...for you, what is that?

 

So do those Christians just pick and choose what to believe?

 

Snippets? I heard about a 10 miniute rant.

 

The qualification is to acknowldge that you are a sinner, repent of your sins and confess Jesus Christ, who came to earth to die for your sins, as lord and savior. Of course you must believe it an not just say it.

Not all Christians believe this.

 

As for the first part, I don't want to rehash the whole Rev. Wright argument again. It's safe to say that we have only seen snippets of Wright's sermons.

 

In a previous post, you mentioned that there was ONE qualification in order to be a Christian...for you, what is that?

 

I'm not trying to start anything, I am just confused. How do you trust any of the Bible if you don't trust all of it? Do you pick and choose which of the verses to believe? I do believe the Bible is the inspired word of God. Please help me understand.

I'm not trying to start anything, I am just confused. How do you trust any of the Bible if you don't trust all of it? Do you pick and choose which of the verses to believe? I do believe the Bible is the inspired word of God. Please help me understand.

 

 

That probably would be best discussed in it's own thread. Worthy topic, but it will take this thread off track completely.

So do those Christians just pick and choose what to believe?

 

Snippets? I heard about a 10 miniute rant.

 

The qualification is to acknowldge that you are a sinner, repent of your sins and confess Jesus Christ, who came to earth to die for your sins, as lord and savior. Of course you must believe it an not just say it.

 

A 10 minute rant of over 20 years of work.