September 17, 200817 yr Of course no one knows what the Reds Payroll will be next year, but let's have a little fun. I believe it's also going to be hard to predict what the Team's personal will look like as well. What we do know is...the Reds need a catcher, leadoff hitter, SS, and another RH power bat. If I were GM what would I try and do? Let's keep in mind, you do have to give up some talent to get talent. I really Like Arroyo and how he's turned his season around, but...I would send Arroyo and Brandon Phillips to the Yanks for Xavier Nady and a prospect. The yanks and especially Girardi have had it with Cano and wouldn't they love throwing Bronson against the Red Sox? I would then go after free agent Orlando Hudson to play 2b. As far a SS and C, I'm just not sure right now. Is Gonzo going to be healthy and even if he is, will he be the answer? As of now I would say Hanigan is the opening day starter behind the plate, would like to see Wilkin Castillo get a start or two behind the plate. Or could the trade with Texas for Salty still be on the table, or is Homer damaged goods? Young players who may get a good shot to make the Team. OF- Drew Stubbs- will be 24 when season starts. Will get a good hard look in the spring. 1B- Yonder Alonzo- will be 22 when season starts. Unless he just has a monster spring, I believe he may be a year away. SS- I really like both Chris Valaika who is 23 and Todd Fraizer who is 22. I would hope one if not both get a good look next spring. Probably a year away though. My lineup for 2009 1.Orlando Hudson 2b 2.Drew Stubbs CF 3.Jay Bruce RF 4.Xavier Nady LF 5.Joey Votto 1B 6.EE 3B 7.Jarrod Saltalamacchia C 8. Gonzo/Keppy/Valaika SS SP-Volquez SP-Cueto SP-Owings SP-Harang SP-Ramirez RP-Cordero RP-Burton RP-Bray RP-Herrera RP-Lincoln Ok, hammer away. I was really bored.
September 17, 200817 yr I really Like Arroyo and how he's turned his season around, but...I would send Arroyo and Brandon Phillips to the Yanks for Xavier Nady and a prospectI think you better quit playing this game. Walt Jocketty would be hung for a deal like that, and deservedly so.
September 17, 200817 yr ^ No doubt. I'm more than willing to pay Bronson the salary he is getting for 15 wins.
September 17, 200817 yr Author You mean Brandon Phillips not Orlanda Hudson. Nope. Remember this is my Team, I'll take Hudson.
September 17, 200817 yr Author ^ No doubt. I'm more than willing to pay Bronson the salary he is getting for 15 wins. And same results as a Team? C'mon let's hear it, what do you do to make them contenders?
September 18, 200817 yr I really Like Arroyo and how he's turned his season around, but...I would send Arroyo and Brandon Phillips to the Yanks for Xavier Nady and a prospect. You're kidding, right? Nady? Do the Yanks even have any prospects of a high enough caliber to make this lopsided trade balance?
September 18, 200817 yr Author You're kidding, right? Nady? Do the Yanks even have any prospects of a high enough caliber to make this lopsided trade balance? Not even close to kidding. You don't think that Nady's .311 BA 24 HR's and 90 RBI's could help this Team? And yea, I 'm sure the Yanks have a few prospects. I believe there's only two minor league Teams still playing, and Scranton/Wilkes-Barre is one of them. That's the Yanks AAA affiliation by the way.
September 18, 200817 yr Xavier Nady? No thanks. He's been great for my fantasy team, though. If you're going to trade away Bronson & Phillips in the same deal, you better get a lot more talent than Xavier Nady and a minor leaguer. And we'd be better off putting Hairston, Keppinger or Castillo at 2nd than Orlando Hudson. Phillips has more range than Hudson, and a ton more pop in his bat. I don't see how Hudson would be an improvement at all?
September 18, 200817 yr Not even close to kidding. You don't think that Nady's .311 BA 24 HR's and 90 RBI's could help this Team? And yea, I 'm sure the Yanks have a few prospects. I believe there's only two minor league Teams still playing, and Scranton/Wilkes-Barre is one of them. That's the Yanks AAA affiliation by the way. I wouldn't consider trading Nady straight-up for Arroyo or Phillips. Especially Phillips. And I'm not sure Nady is doing anything but having a career year. The back of his baseball card tells me he's not that much better a hitter than Arroyo. Nady's a mediocre MLB player having his best year.
September 18, 200817 yr ^ You do know he won the Gold Glove last year right? I'll assume that is directed towards me. Yes, I'm well aware that Hudson won the gold glove. I'm also well aware that gold gloves, much like saves, are tremendously overrated in baseball. Brandon Phillips was a gold glove contender as well. I think we have plenty of guys on the roster (see Keppinger, Hairston, Alex Gonzalez, Freel, maybe even W. Castillo) who are capable 2nd baseman. And that's assuming we get rid of Brandon Phillips, which I doubt will happen.
September 18, 200817 yr Sign Rocco Baldelli to play CF and then trade E-5 and someone else for a big time bat in LF, 3B, or 1B. Move Votto to LF depending on where they can get a big time bat. Alonzo plays either 1B or 3B.
September 18, 200817 yr Sign Rocco Baldelli to play CF and then trade E-5 and someone else for a big time bat in LF, 3B, or 1B. Move Votto to LF depending on where they can get a big time bat. Alonzo plays either 1B or 3B. If you're going to go after Baldelli, you might as well keep looking, because you'll need somebody to step in for him when he goes on the DL for six months at a time.
September 18, 200817 yr Author Xavier Nady? No thanks. He's been great for my fantasy team, though. If you're going to trade away Bronson & Phillips in the same deal, you better get a lot more talent than Xavier Nady and a minor leaguer. And we'd be better off putting Hairston, Keppinger or Castillo at 2nd than Orlando Hudson. Phillips has more range than Hudson, and a ton more pop in his bat. I don't see how Hudson would be an improvement at all?[/QUOTE] The range is about the same, as is their overall D. I will take Hudson's .282 average over Phillips .262 and his .346 OBP over BP's .308 anytime. And the fact that he's a switch hitter adds to his value. So to say no improvement at all is just false. Edited September 18, 200817 yr by Baseballguy
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