September 17, 200818 yr Author Because it matters what the world thinks. You may not be concerned with the perception of Americans abroad, but I am.Why should we care? They don't care what we think of them.
September 17, 200818 yr Don't mind at all my friend. This is the first election I've lost more than a few hours of sleep over. My wife keeps telling me to relax, it will all work out. I hope she's right. If you haven't lost sleep the past eight years I think you'll survive. We've almost survived eight years of this duffas, it's not quite over yet. We might just make it.
September 17, 200818 yr If you haven't lost sleep the past eight years I think you'll survive. We've almost survived eight years of this duffas, it's not quite over yet. We might just make it. Nice political debate.
September 17, 200818 yr Why should we care? They don't care what we think of them. It's that arrogant attitude that has led to all the international problems we have right now.
September 17, 200818 yr It's that arrogant attitude that has led to all the international problems we have right now. I'd rather have RTS's attitude of who cares what they think, then one that thinks we should consult other countries with every decision we make, because the last thing we should ever do is upset them....
September 17, 200818 yr :thumb: Wealth distribution, expanding govt into education and health care, his bull about weaning from oil in ten years, taxing what he calls rich and giving it to the lazy (The top 20% of money earners in this country already pay 80% of all income taxes paid to uncle sam) "neighborliness":rolleyes: I think he called it, liberal supreme court appointees, not expanding (cutting) our nuclear and space defense programs, pro choice, attitude toward our enemies, his negative perspective of our great country which at times he sounds like he hates it (nowhere near as bad as he portrays the USA to be), he doesn't seem presidential to me, dealings with thugs in the past (ACORN), not telling the truth about his spiritual mentor Rev. Wright, our enemies want to see him win, unearned arrogance, senate voting record (present 143), his choice of Joe "The Clown" Biden. I could go on and on but it's getting late. Our President and government should stand beside us, not between us as we work to be ourselves. As long as this world lasts there will always be levels of success, levels of intelligence, levels of wealth and levels of the willingness to work. I don't want a president to be Robin Hood. I think he preys on the less fortunate by promising to punish the more fortunate. There is enough help out there now for anybody that's willing to work for more. Agree!
September 17, 200818 yr We have added msnbc to our list of "no watch the news" net works. :thumb: agreed
September 17, 200818 yr Author It's that arrogant attitude that has led to all the international problems we have right now.But you'll turn a blind eye, and ear, to their arrogant attitude. Makes a lot of sense to me. :creepy:
September 17, 200818 yr Author I'd rather have RTS's attitude of who cares what they think, then one that thinks we should consult other countries with every decision we make, because the last thing we should ever do is upset them.... :thumb:
September 17, 200818 yr It's that arrogant attitude that has led to all the international problems we have right now. No, it didn't.
September 17, 200818 yr I'll ask again, if we should be so concerned with what they think, why don't we just let them elect our leaders? That is a really dense way of looking at. Whether you like it or not, there are other countries in the world that aren't the United States. And the United States occasionally interacts with them, or even asks for their help (:scared:). There is a tremendous value to engaging in civil dialogue with other countries and attempting, at least, to cooperate. The "if you don't agree with us - get bent" foreign policy of the last 6 or so years has been nothing short of destructive.
September 17, 200818 yr Author That is a really dense way of looking at. Whether you like it or not, there are other countries in the world that aren't the United States. And the United States occasionally interacts with them, or even asks for their help (:scared:). There is a tremendous value to engaging in civil dialogue with other countries and attempting, at least, to cooperate. The "if you don't agree with us - get bent" foreign policy of the last 6 or so years has been nothing short of destructive.What exactly from our foreign policy are you referring to?
September 17, 200818 yr What exactly from our foreign policy are you referring to? The Bush Doctrine itself, for one.
September 17, 200818 yr What exactly from our foreign policy are you referring to? Off the top of my head I will go with the U.S.'s unilateral invasion of Iraq the "you are either for us or against us" rhetoric the use of the WTO to tear down trade barriers in other countries, but not the U.S.'s own the U.S.'s comical representation at the World Bank prior to Robert Zoellick's appointment (but, then see WTO representation) the refusal to join the International Criminal Court the refusal to obey common, agreed upon human rights laws the refusal to diplomatically engage Iran the U.S.'s inability to capture bin Laden because Pakistan won't let us (and this may be a shocker, but it's because they don't like us) the rise of the old Russia (see "for us or against us rhetoric") If I get free time, I may find a few more.
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