Now I am challenging to you be Fair and Balanced in your duties!

 

Don't hold your breath on that one....

The internet has been full of rumors regarding Governor Palin. My own opinion is that the stuff related to her daughter is not pertinant to the election. The stuff related to troopergate MAY be an abuse of power, but one that I am willing to overlook if he allegations regarding her former brother-in-law are true. Her politics, experience and running mate make it highly unlikely that I would ever vote for her. If someone has an answer to the latest rumor I'd appreciate clarification. Is Governor Palin a creationist? By creationist I mean the earth was created in six days approximately 6000 years ago. Given the amount of research NASA does on the history of the universe, I can't imagine a creationist running NASA.

The internet has been full of rumors regarding Governor Palin. My own opinion is that the stuff related to her daughter is not pertinant to the election. The stuff related to troopergate MAY be an abuse of power, but one that I am willing to overlook if he allegations regarding her former brother-in-law are true. Her politics, experience and running mate make it highly unlikely that I would ever vote for her. If someone has an answer to the latest rumor I'd appreciate clarification. Is Governor Palin a creationist? By creationist I mean the earth was created in six days approximately 6000 years ago. Given the amount of research NASA does on the history of the universe, I can't imagine a creationist running NASA.

 

Are you saying she believes in the book of Genesis where it states that God created the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th?

 

If so, I don't see anything wrong with that, as that is what most Christian and Catholics believe as far as I know.

Now I am challenging to you be Fair and Balanced in your duties!

 

Always - just like Sean Hannity.

Are you saying she believes in the book of Genesis where it states that God created the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th?

 

If so, I don't see anything wrong with that, as that is what most Christian and Catholics believe as far as I know.

 

Actually, that isn't the teaching of the Catholic Church. The story of Genesis is that a loving God created the universe. The rest is a way to present that central truth.

Actually, that isn't the teaching of the Catholic Church. The story of Genesis is that a loving God created the universe. The rest is a way to present that central truth.

So the Catholic Church throws out the verses or part of the story as you call it,where God made man and all the creatures on the earth?I didn't know that but that is very interesting.

You are then making the assumption that Ace and I are taking a blind eye instead of investigated and have dismissed it.

 

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I didn't mention any names, right?

So the Catholic Church throws out the verses or part of the story as you call it,where God made man and all the creatures on the earth?I didn't know that but that is very interesting.

 

No, they don't. I've attended Catholic schools my whole life and have been taught in every religion class I've ever sat in that God created the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th.

Are you saying she believes in the book of Genesis where it states that God created the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th?

 

If so, I don't see anything wrong with that, as that is what most Christian and Catholics believe as far as I know.

 

And I think you might be wrong. Most conservative Evangelical Christians might agree in a literal creation but the rest of Christendom (which makes up probably a vast higher number) would allow modifications to that statement. Even Creationism doesn't always hold to a literal 6 days.

No, they don't. I've attended Catholic schools my whole life and have been taught in every religion class I've ever sat in that God created the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th.

 

So you've been in how many schools? 6? Does that give you a good graph for the thousands of Catholic schools throughout this country and the world? Does that give you experience in Methodist, Presbyterian, Baptist, Episcopalian circles as well?

So the Catholic Church throws out the verses or part of the story as you call it,where God made man and all the creatures on the earth?I didn't know that but that is very interesting.

 

Many denominations, including Catholicsim, don't hold to a literal 6 days while holding the Genesis story as a narrative of how it happened. Many get bogged down in the details and forget the purpose of the Genesis accounts (2 as most scholars see them) was to identify more WHO created rather than HOW.

Always - just like Sean Hannity.

 

Now, now, now, you can't criticize a person and then use him as support for your actions. Try again.

Or Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Khalid Al Mansour, Frank Marshall Davis, or....

 

 

I knew you guys were going to go there.That exchange was very funny. lol

 

I'd say its silly to base a Presidential vote on the "heart beat" reason because of the remoteness of probability that it will happen. Do you wear a helmet sitting in your living room because of the possibility that car may slam into your house? I don't because its highly improbable that it will happen. But I will acknowledge that if could happen.

And again, given the process of what happens in the event McCain dies, I'd say there is a very high probability that the VP eventually sworn in would have experience and credentials in areas that Palin is lacking. Congress has to approve the VP selected by Palin to fill her spot, and while I sometimes don't have much confidence in Congress, I'd think they'd take make the VP decision very, very seriously. If that was to happen, then would that situation be any different than the slate the Democrats are offering (a President with no significant foreign policy, military and intel experience and a VP with significant experience in those areas)? I don't think so.

 

Thus I default to going with the slate that offers a President with unquestionable experience in the areas that I believe are needed the most in a President at this juncture in our country's history and not worry about the very small probability that he'll die in office. Its happened 8 times. Four were by assassination. Four were for health reasons and the last of those four to occur were over 60 years ago. Given the advanced health care available today (particularly for a President), death due to health reasons is a pretty remote probability in the way I logically look at things.

 

To base your vote on that reason alone, then yes its silly, is it a contributing factor to your vote, it should be you ask Do you wear a helmet sitting in your living room because of the possibility that car may slam into your house? No of course not, but my family is prepared if something would happen to me. I view the Country the same as a family, has McCain took the correct rights steps to prepare the Country if something would happen to him?

No, they don't. I've attended Catholic schools my whole life and have been taught in every religion class I've ever sat in that God created the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th.

 

 

Actually, that's true, but not "technically" true. St. Augestine writes:

 

"It not infrequently happens that something about the earth, about the sky, about other elements of this world, about the motion and rotation or even the magnitude and distances of the stars, about definite eclipses of the sun and moon, about the passage of years and seasons, about the nature of animals, of fruits, of stones, and of other such things, may be known with the greatest certainty by reasoning or by experience, even by one who is not a Christian. It is too disgraceful and ruinous, though, and greatly to be avoided, that he [the non-Christian] should hear a Christian speaking so idiotically on these matters, and as if in accord with Christian writings, that he might say that he could scarcely keep from laughing when he saw how totally in error they are. In view of this and in keeping it in mind constantly while dealing with the book of Genesis, I have, insofar as I was able, explained in detail and set forth for consideration the meanings of obscure passages, taking care not to affirm rashly some one meaning to the prejudice of another and perhaps better explanation".

 

"With the scriptures it is a matter of treating about the faith. For that reason, as I have noted repeatedly, if anyone, not understanding the mode of divine eloquence, should find something about these matters [about the physical universe] in our books, or hear of the same from those books, of such a kind that it seems to be at variance with the perceptions of his own rational faculties, let him believe that these other things are in no way necessary to the admonitions or accounts or predictions of the scriptures. In short, it must be said that our authors knew the truth about the nature of the skies, but it was not the intention of the Spirit of God, who spoke through them, to teach men anything that would not be of use to them for their salvation".

 

"Seven days by our reckoning, after the model of the days of creation, make up a week. By the passage of such weeks time rolls on, and in these weeks one day is constituted by the course of the sun from its rising to its setting; but we must bear in mind that these days indeed recall the days of creation, but without in any way being really similar to them".

 

"At least we know that it [the Genesis creation day] is different from the ordinary day with which we are familiar". (The Literal Interpretation of Genesis 1:19–20 [A.D. 408])

 

"For in these days [of creation] the morning and evening are counted until, on the sixth day, all things which God then made were finished, and on the seventh the rest of God was mysteriously and sublimely signalized. What kind of days these were is extremely difficult or perhaps impossible for us to conceive, and how much more to say!" (The City of God 11:6 [A.D. 419]).

 

"We see that our ordinary days have no evening but by the setting [of the sun] and no morning but by the rising of the sun, but the first three days of all were passed without sun, since it is reported to have been made on the fourth day. And first of all, indeed, light was made by the word of God, and God, we read, separated it from the darkness and called the light ‘day’ and the darkness ‘night’; but what kind of light that was, and by what periodic movement it made evening and morning, is beyond the reach of our senses; neither can we understand how it was and yet must unhesitatingly believe it" .

 

"They [pagans] are deceived, too, by those highly mendacious documents which profess to give the history of man as many thousands of years, though reckoning by the sacred writings we find that not 6,000 years have yet passed"

 

 

The Catholic Church's teachings are actually that although "six days" may have been consumed in God's creation, the six days are not 24-hour days. They are an instant, and at the same time, eternity. Time is a "man-made" principle. Yet, there was no time before God.