And explain to me again how OTS is brought into this? :confused::confused:

 

Because Cats fans, which I am one, can see it one way for their team when it comes to Tubby. Then, they see it completely the opposite for ND when it comes to Ty, when in reality, the situations are very similar. You being a Cat fan like myself, I was just putting into terms you'd appreciate.

I find it interesting on much emphasis ND fans put on recruiting.

There are plenty of schools out there who are not nearly as successful as Notre Dame but win more games. How can that be, when ND has so many top recruits?

 

Oh, that's right, gametime is ranking them.

 

Since we sucked on the field last season, we take our battles where we can. :thumb:

 

But honestly, recruiting is the life blood of CFB. Yeah, every once in a while a team pops up for a few years with lower recruits, because they were evaluated better by that staff than the gurus. Louisvile is a prime example with Petrino here. But to stay at the top, you have to consistenly bring in solid classes, otherwise you will fade into oblivion. ND and Louisville are fine examples again. It doesn't guarantee success, otherwise USC would never lose a game, but it certaily helps.

 

With the dumbed down schedule, ND should win 8, but I hope to see them go back to play the schedules of past. I'd rather never win a NC and play the toughest schedule, though I'm sure i'm in the minority. I wish all of CFB would so the same. In '88, we played 3 of the top 4 teams (ND being the other) and won all games easily for the most part. That was with somewhat relaxed academic standards though, so we'll see if it can be done with rigid standards.

Tubby had plenty of time to establish himself at Kentucky. Ty never really even got a chance to win (or lose) with his own players. He catches a lot of grief for his recruiting, but didn't Charlie Weis come in and excel with Ty's guys?

 

As a Kentucky fan, I definitely understand the recruiting aspect; however, if "my" team does well on the field yearly, then I don't care how highly ranked these guys are. Football is a game that you win due to depth and experience. I'll take a "3 star" recruit who's going to stick around for 4 years (I'd prefer it to be 5 with a redshirt) over a highly touted prospect who's more interested in the NFL.

 

Petrino had plenty of recruits at Louisville -- and most of them were in his own backyard.

Michael Bush was one of the top "athletes" in the nation in '03. Likewise, Brian Brohm was one of the top quarterbacks in the nation in '04. Also, I believe they got one of the top offensive lineman in '04 from New Jersey.

 

Add that type of talent to an unproven conference and you've got a good chance at having a few very good seasons.

Rudy is starting, so I'm happy. Still won't root for them though...

So you guys understand about Ty, here are a few links. Those who say he never got a chance really don't know him, and how he is a cancer. As a former "huge supporter" of Ty, I do understand. You have not sat through his press conferences where he blames the players ONLY. He NEVER took any credit for failures, which is a huge reason recruits quit coming. They've said as much. Apparently he did it again this weekend, blaming Jake Locker, who is a freaking stud, in their embarrassing loss this weekend.

 

Check out the Settle Times forums. Do you notice a trend with these topics?

http://forums.seattletimes.nwsource.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=45

 

 

Every coach has one of these I suppose

http://www.firetw.com/

 

 

Apathy. After 1st beatdown of the season, their Rivals board had only 6 (SIX!!!) post yesterday. They've given up.

http://washington.rivals.com/forum.asp?sid=881&fid=2346

 

 

Or, maybe they're all here on the Scout.com board

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=147&f=1361

 

 

I only point his current situation because this is exactly how it played out at ND. Most folks only saw the headline "ND is Racist" and chose to buy into it: hook, line and sinker. Which is the reason I defend them so vehemently.

 

Never mind those same racist were the only college I know of that fought the KKK and kicked them out of town, unlike my alma mata (UofL) who lets them speak on campus and gives them police protection.

So you guys understand about Ty, here are a few links. Those who say he never got a chance really don't know him, and how he is a cancer. As a former "huge supporter" of Ty, I do understand. You have not sat through his press conferences where he blames the players ONLY. He NEVER took any credit for failures, which is a huge reason recruits quit coming. They've said as much. Apparently he did it again this weekend, blaming Jake Locker, who is a freaking stud, in their embarrassing loss this weekend.

Check out the Settle Times forums. Do you notice a trend with these topics?

http://forums.seattletimes.nwsource.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=45

 

Maybe Ty should recruit some OL who can protect Jake, so he doesn't get the snot knocked out of him every time the ball is snapped. He had to leave the game due to a hit. He got hit a ton last year. The kid is an amazing QB, but without any time to work, he won't accomplish much.

Never mind those same racist were the only college I know of that fought the KKK and kicked them out of town, unlike my alma mata (UofL) who lets them speak on campus and gives them police protection.

 

Well, if it is brought up, regardless of whether or not you agree with that group (which neither you or I do), they do have a right to speak. Its not UofL supporting them.