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Stats don't support Jr should NOT have been hitting 3rd.

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Many, many on here say Jr should not have been hitting 3rd and it was hurting the team.

 

From today's Enquirer.

 

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080804/SPT04/808040370/1062

 

THIRD PERSON: So much has been made of Baker hitting Ken Griffey Jr. in the No. 3 spot in the order.

 

The numbers show it worked out relatively well.

 

The Reds were 45-44 with Griffey in the third spot in the order.

 

They are 6-17 with anyone else hitting there.

 

If the bottom line is wins, the Reds did much, much better with Jr in the 3rd spot than without him.

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So they are 1 game over .500 and 6 - 17 in a SMALL SMALL sample size of someone filling in a role they are not used to. This is weak at best. I would take at least 5 guys on the current Reds roster to hit there instead of Griff.

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So the are 1 game over .500 and 6 - 17 in a SMALL SMALL sample size of someone filling in a role they are not used to. this is weak at best. I would take at least 5 guys on the current Reds roster to hit there instead of Griff.

 

You will get your wish these next two months. So far, it has started off really well.:p

If you projected Jr.'s three-hole numbers out to a full 112 games, the Reds would be 57-55, ten games back of the Chicago Cubs in the division and five back of the Brewers in the wild card.

You will get your wish these next two months. So far, it has started off really well.:p

 

With a struggling rookie trying to learn the ropes on this pathetic team I am sure it won't be above .500. Now next season we can talk.

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If you projected Jr.'s three-hole numbers out to a full 112 games, the Reds would be 57-55, ten games back of the Chicago Cubs in the division and five back of the Brewers in the wild card.

 

Hey project those numbers without Jr in the 3 hole.

Hey project those numbers without Jr in the 3 hole.

 

I was intended to be smart - just throwing out the facts. Obviously the numbers aren't so good without.

 

Bottom line: with Ken Griffey, Jr. batting third the Cincinnati Reds are a .500 team at best.

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If you projected Jr.'s three-hole numbers out to a full 112 games, the Reds would be 57-55, ten games back of the Chicago Cubs in the division and five back of the Brewers in the wild card.

 

Presently, they are 16 games back of the Cubs and 11 games back of the Brewers.

No offense but this could be one of the most meaningless stats we've had on here in a while. While he did OK since the AS break, overall he's not done much this year in the 3 hole or anywhere else.

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I was intended to be smart - just throwing out the facts. Obviously the numbers aren't so good without.

 

Bottom line: with Ken Griffey, Jr. the Cincinnati Reds are a .500 team at best.

 

And without him they are a much worse team.

 

Maybe it wasn't Jr hitting in the 3 hole that was the problem.:sssh:;)

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No offense but this could be one of the most meaningless stats we've had on here in a while. While he did OK since the AS break, overall he's not done much this year in the 3 hole or anywhere else.

 

So wins are a meaningless stat?

Presently, they are 16 games back of the Cubs and 11 games back of the Brewers.

 

True. If you figure at best a team could make up a game per week, then the Reds would still be in the wild card race. But let's not kid ourselves into thinking they would be making a run.

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Jrs gone now. What's the point?

 

Thought it was interesting that so many people clamored for him to be out of the 3 hole but the wins show that the Reds did best when he was there.

I was going to post this too lbbc. Say what you want, but it's been basically 25 games without Griff in the 3 slot, and the team is pathetic. This team just doesn't have a #3 hitter on it, plain and simple.

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