What are some solutions to the problem of unplanned pregnancies?

 

Let's not be critical of the mothers. It takes two.

Let's leave critcism out of it altogether and approach it for what it is...a mistake.

 

What solutions can you think of to resolve the need for abortion.

 

I hear tons of people upset about the make up of the Supreme Court, etc.

 

Let's not bring that into it.

 

Let's talk about ways to attack the real problem, unplanned pregnancies. Obviously, there's abstinence. Yet, we all know, even in the Victorian era, girls found themselves "compromised".

 

So....here's a start:

 

Before R v W, Louisville had four homes for unwed mothers. Now, only one, and only a fairly recent addition. A shame, isn't it? Only one.

 

Of course, R v W can be attributed to the decline in the use of those homes. But, we're hypothesizing here. R v. W is gone.

 

Now....what do we do?

Eliminate the barriers to adoption. Interestingly, this issue is on the cover of this month's ABA Journal.

 

I am interested in your use of the phrase "unplanned pregnancies." I would prefer you use the phrase "unwanted pregnancies." The use of the term "unplanned" connotes some sort of accident or lack of responsibility, whereas my belief is that the vast majority of such situations are merely reckless disregard for known and easily ascertainable consequences.

Eliminate the barriers to adoption. Interestingly, this issue is on the cover of this month's ABA Journal.

 

I am interested in your use of the phrase "unplanned pregnancies." I would prefer you use the phrase "unwanted pregnancies." The use of the term "unplanned" connotes some sort of accident or lack of responsibility, whereas my belief is that the vast majority of such situations are merely reckless disregard for known and easily ascertainable consequences.

 

 

Well, how about we say unplanned/unwanted?

 

I'll compromise, bu I can't imagine that an unwanted pregnancy was planned. I felt that unplanned offered a way to cover a broad range of contibutors, such as reckless disregard, failed method of birth control, rape, etc. I also feel "reckless disregard" is the same as lack of responsibility.

I would also re-define your question somewhat. The real problem, based upon my broad and somewhat jaded view of things, is more and more very young girls who lay down and spread their legs for the fist john with promise to happen by.

 

Is there a way to arrest that trend?

I would also re-define your question somewhat. The real problem, based upon my broad and somewhat jaded view of things, is more and more very young girls who lay down and spread their legs for the fist john with promise to happen by.

 

Is there a way to arrest that trend?

 

Well, that's what we're here to discuss.

 

I didn't realize I'd need to run my idea for a topic by a lawyer before I posted a thread. :lol:

Well, how about we say unplanned/unwanted?

 

I'll compromise, bu I can't imagine that an unwanted pregnancy was planned. I felt that unplanned offered a way to cover a broad range of contibutors, such as reckless disregard, failed method of birth control, rape, etc. I also feel "reckless disregard" is the same as lack of responsibility.

 

Fair enough, but I'd bet if you polled the girls down at the clinic on 8th and Chestnut, you'd get very few answers that "the condom broke." I have no hard data, but my experience suggests that the majority of those aborting simply had guilt-free unprotected sex.

Well, that's what we're here to discuss.

 

I didn't realize I'd need to run my idea for a topic by a lawyer before I posted a thread. :lol:

 

You know me, always wanting to define both the issues and the language.

For those who would vote to overturn the RvW - would you be willing to take in one of these unwanted children? If it would save them from being aborted?

For those who would vote to overturn the RvW - would you be willing to take in one of these unwanted children? If it would save them from being aborted?

 

yes

For those who would vote to overturn the RvW - would you be willing to take in one of these unwanted children? If it would save them from being aborted?

 

YES!!!! My wife and I would do that in a HEARTBEAT!

You know me, always wanting to define both the issues and the language.

 

 

This is an open forum topic, IMO.

 

I really just want to get some dialogue going about solutions.

 

There is thread after thread after thread after thread beating up the topics of R v W, of right vs. wrong, of Christian vs. non-Christian, vs. not-good-Christian debate.

 

That gets us no where.

 

It's my FIRM belief that solution is NOT overturning R v. W. I have quite a few ideas for solutions. But rather than post my list, I'd like to see others ideas. Surely someone has some ideas.

 

I've worked with women making their choices. I've heard all kinds of stories, and I've helped try to find solutions to all kinds of obstacles. So, I do have some ideas. The problem is, there are far more people out there willing to go to bat to overturn R v W, and too few willing to find solutions so a girl doesn't find themselves considering abortion a better choice that giving birth.

 

It's not an argument I'm after, it's a real discussion of possible solutions.

For those who would vote to overturn the RvW - would you be willing to take in one of these unwanted children? If it would save them from being aborted?

 

Given the enormous number of potential parents that are waiting and desire healthy babies to adopt, I'm not sure this question leads you down a path you want to go.

Eliminate the barriers to adoption. Interestingly, this issue is on the cover of this month's ABA Journal.

 

I am interested in your use of the phrase "unplanned pregnancies." I would prefer you use the phrase "unwanted pregnancies." The use of the term "unplanned" connotes some sort of accident or lack of responsibility, whereas my belief is that the vast majority of such situations are merely reckless disregard for known and easily ascertainable consequences.

 

Absolutely.

 

And I have said for a long time that it is local churches, NOT GOVERNMENT, that have to step up and provide things for mothers to help them out.

 

Free daycare at the church.

Meals during the week.

Baby supply closets to pick up supplies.

Parenting classes.

Counseling.

Job training.

I read a study about 10-15 years ago from Planned Parenthood, which put the number of abortions for birth control reasons at approximately 94%.

Fair enough, but I'd bet if you polled the girls down at the clinic on 8th and Chestnut, you'd get very few answers that "the condom broke." I have no hard data, but my experience suggests that the majority of those aborting simply had guilt-free unprotected sex.

 

 

Still falls under "unplanned", right? :lol: