Oldrambler, I respect you and your opinion. However, what is wrong with this post:

 

 

 

Don't we want the division to end? Or do we want just the conservatives to be happy? To me, this post is calling for a unified country. Granted, that may just be a pipe dream, but if would could at least get closer, as opposed to being on two opposite sides where nothing gets done, I would be happy.

 

Maybe the last sentence is what did it for you, but I honestly only know one person that is totally pleased with the direction Pres. Bush has taken our country and where we are headed. Whether it be McCain or Obama, I am looking for someone to turn the steering wheel.

 

Again, if you are thinking that voting for Obama will make us more unified it is a pipe dream. Same goes for McCain. Neither is going to accomplish that. The question is which one will be able to lead given this poisonous environment.

Correction. Wrong Wilson. Idiocracy was not a great movie but it contains some pretty good political satire.

 

Like you said, Obama is a good teleprompter reader. His election, at least in 2008, would show that we are hurtling downhill toward the America to which Luke Wilson awoke in Idiocracy.

Again, if you are thinking that voting for Obama will make us more unified it is a pipe dream. Same goes for McCain. Neither is going to accomplish that. The question is which one will be able to lead given this poisonous environment.

 

I know. It is a dream, but one I continue to hope for. Like I said, I'd be happy if we could have just a little more unity.

I know. It is a dream, but one I continue to hope for. Like I said, I'd be happy if we could have just a little more unity.

 

:thumb: Since that is one thing both sides of the aisle agree on isn't it sad that it's not happening?

 

This post coming from and supported by a "Zell Miller" true Democrat. :thumb:

 

I find Zell Miller to be embarrassing. He seems like a caricature of a Dixie Democrat from the 40s and 50s.

Do you REALLY think there will be no more spin and an undivided government under the democrats?

 

I believe the American people can send a message to Washington " that we the people are feed up with politics that divide".We should want a government that is united not divide. WE OUR ONE AMERICA not rich,or poor but AMERICANS who LOVES OUR COUNTRY.Stop the spin.

It is hiarious to (no, sad really) to read all of the misinformed, decieved people that can get all fired up by a man reading a tele prompter and for what it is worth I would be willing to bet that it about killed the pant suit wonder woman to endorse BaCrock Winfrey. I still believe that she hopes that he will lose, would be much better for her in another 4 years if he would and that is all the Clinton's consider, certainly not te welfare of this country.

 

Obama may very well be elected. I am not saying that he won't be, just that a lot of people are imo in for a rude awakening when and if he is.

So......go ahead and have your fun and even more if he gets elected, then we will see what you have to say about America, the Goverment Controlled Society in 4 years.

I'll continue to pray for this country and it's leaders regardless, maybe double up on them if Obama is elected bc just about everything tht he has said and maybe more important what he hasn't said leads me to believe that that he will do everything in his power to leave God out of his presidency and America.

So, to all that are getting all "giddy" over "tele promter man"...... .have at it an enjoy it. (I think that at one time I heard that Hitler and Hussien could give a good speech....:sssh:)

 

This post coming from and supported by a "Zell Miller" true Democrat. :thumb:

 

I am not going to speak for Mr. Hopper or Acemona, but I spend several hours a week researching various aspects of each candidate. My opinion is based on far more than a speech from a teleprompter. My vote will reflect the candidate that I know, through diligent study, research, and reflection, will best represent the vision that I have for a better America. My opinion will be a very informed one, based on hundreds and hundreds of pages of research, hours and hours of watching clips of the candidates ,trying to separate spin from substance. What research I have done thus far has been most enlightening. I look forward to future discussions.

I believe the American people can send a message to Washington " that we the people are feed up with politics that divide".We should want a government that is united not divide. WE OUR ONE AMERICA not rich,or poor but AMERICANS who LOVES OUR COUNTRY.Stop the spin.

If you really believe this, why would you consider voting for a man who has no history of uniting people across the political spectrum? What has Obama actually done - not just promised - in this area? What major legislation has he crafted since he has been a US Senator that attracted bipartisan support?

Correction. Wrong Wilson. Idiocracy was not a great movie but it contains some pretty good political satire.

 

It was Luke Wilson who was in Idiocracy, and that was a very funny movie IMO.

If you really believe this, why would you consider voting for a man who has no history of uniting people across the political spectrum? What has Obama actually done - not just promised - in this area? What major legislation has he crafted since he has been a US Senator that attracted bipartisan support?

 

This article is more about his time as a state senator, but I found it interesting:

 

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. — As an Illinois legislator, Barack Obama fought to expand aid to the poor — and backed legislation to withhold welfare from parents abusing drugs.

 

He opposed making it easier to impose the death penalty on gang members, and supported it for people who kill volunteers in community policing programs.

 

He consistently supported gun control. He also voted to let retired police and military personnel carry concealed weapons.

 

Just how liberal was he?

 

In all, Obama’s record from nearly eight years in the Illinois Senate suggests someone who believes strongly that government can make life better for people, whether by offering financial help, banning dangerous guns or providing health care.

 

But Obama, now the Democratic candidate for president, was no ideologue. He often cooperated with Republican lawmakers, co-sponsoring their legislation and working with them on compromises.

 

“People on both sides of the aisle would find him to be someone who would reach across to find out why people think the way they do,” said William Mahar, a former Republican state senator. “He wouldn’t talk just to people who agreed with him.”

 

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Here is another about Barack Obama:

 

Is the sting of $75-a-barrel oil and the threat of World War III exploding in the Middle East enough to convince Congress to finally boost auto fuel economy? Probably not, but a bipartisan coalition of senators led by Barack Obama (D-Ill.) is launching an admirable new effort anyway -- the Fuel Economy Reform Act.

 

 

"It is possibly the best shot we've had of improving fuel economy since the Carter administration, after decades of inaction," said Roland Hwang, vehicles policy director for the Natural Resources Defense Council.

 

Together with seven other senators -- Joe Biden (D-Del.), Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.), Norm Coleman (R-Minn.), Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Dick Lugar (R-Ind.), and Gordon Smith (R-Ore.) -- Obama introduced legislation last week that would raise fuel-economy standards for cars and light trucks sold in the U.S. by 4 percent, or about one mile per gallon, each year. Its sponsors say the bill would reduce America's oil consumption by 1.3 million barrels daily within a decade; that amounts to 16 percent of the current consumption of America's passenger-vehicle fleet of 8 million barrels per day.

 

LINK

This article is more about his time as a state senator, but I found it interesting:

Texas Democrats praised George W. Bush for his willingness to work across party lines while he was a Texas governor. What has Obama done since being elected to the US Senate? After all, as president he would be working with Republicans in the US Congress. Has he not been in the US Senate long enough to accomplish something bipartisan and noteworthy?

Here is another about Barack Obama:

 

Is the sting of $75-a-barrel oil and the threat of World War III exploding in the Middle East enough to convince Congress to finally boost auto fuel economy? Probably not, but a bipartisan coalition of senators led by Barack Obama (D-Ill.) is launching an admirable new effort anyway -- the Fuel Economy Reform Act.

 

 

"It is possibly the best shot we've had of improving fuel economy since the Carter administration, after decades of inaction," said Roland Hwang, vehicles policy director for the Natural Resources Defense Council.

 

Together with seven other senators -- Joe Biden (D-Del.), Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.), Norm Coleman (R-Minn.), Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Dick Lugar (R-Ind.), and Gordon Smith (R-Ore.) -- Obama introduced legislation last week that would raise fuel-economy standards for cars and light trucks sold in the U.S. by 4 percent, or about one mile per gallon, each year. Its sponsors say the bill would reduce America's oil consumption by 1.3 million barrels daily within a decade; that amounts to 16 percent of the current consumption of America's passenger-vehicle fleet of 8 million barrels per day.

 

LINK

:lol: Do you honestly believe that having failed to produce any substantial legislation before he began campaigning for president that Obama actually played a big role in this piece of legislation? Democrats are frantically seeking to help Obama to pad his paper-thin resume. He is too busy campaigning to do any heavy lifting in the US Senate.

 

Americans are beginning to sell their gas guzzlers and manufacturers are responding to the demand for more fuel efficient cars. Why does the government need to mandate something that the market has already addressed?

:lol: Do you honestly believe that having failed to produce any substantial legislation before he began campaigning for president that Obama actually played a big role in this piece of legislation? Democrats are frantically seeking to help Obama to pad his paper-thin resume. He is too busy campaigning to do any heavy lifting in the US Senate.

 

Americans are beginning to sell their gas guzzlers and manufacturers are responding to the demand for more fuel efficient cars. Why does the government need to mandate something that the market has already addressed?

 

That article was from 2006.

I believe the American people can send a message to Washington " that we the people are feed up with politics that divide".We should want a government that is united not divide. WE OUR ONE AMERICA not rich,or poor but AMERICANS who LOVES OUR COUNTRY.Stop the spin.

What in the world has given you the idea that Obama is the guy that will deliver this?! :lol: