June 1, 200818 yr Senator Barack Obama's communications director, Robert Gibbs. Congratulations, Robert. :thumb: ABC News' Ben Newman reports: Sen. Barack Obama's decision to cut ties with Trinity United Church of Christ was not politically motivated, Obama's communications director Robert Gibbs said this morning. "I think what [decision] Barack Obama made in the past few days is a deeply personal, not political decision," Gibbs said in an exclusive appearance on “This Week with George Stephanopoulos” (Click HERE for video of Gibbs' appearance). - more: Spokesman: Obama Decision to Leave Church Not Politically Motivated
June 1, 200818 yr Although I do not know any of the people who attend Trinity United Methodist Church personally, many of them seem to be the kind of people who applaud and cheer wildly in response to the racist rants of their pastors and guest pastors. (I could be wrong, somebody could be editing the sound tracks of the videos.) Do you seriously think there are any less racists in most of the churches that the rest of us attend? We all attend churches with racists. If our churches were led by a charismatic who wasn't afraid to lead the chorus of divisive rhetoric, we, too, would likely stand up and applaud in much the same way. Psychologists know that people will behave in a way in group situations that they would never behave if they were alone, especially if they are being led by a charismatic like Wright. It's the cultist mentality. Many of you would behave in the same way as the folks at Trinity under the right conditions.
June 1, 200818 yr Do you seriously think there are any less racists in most of the churches that the rest of us attend? We all attend churches with racists. If our churches were led by a charismatic who wasn't afraid to lead the chorus of divisive rhetoric, we, too, would likely stand up and applaud in much the same way. Psychologists know that people will behave in a way in group situations that they would never behave if they were alone, especially if they are being led by a charismatic like Wright. It's the cultist mentality. Many of you would behave in the same way as the folks at Trinity under the right conditions.I have a more favorable opinion of Christians than you seem to have. I believe that most people who attend church on Sundays would be appalled to hear their own pastor launch into the kind of tirades against another race like those we have seen coming from Trinity. If a video surfaces after Obama gets the nomination of Barack Obama cheering on Rev. Wright or Father Pfleger, Democrats can kiss the White House good bye for at least another four years. In this age of camera phones, that prospect has to be on the minds of the super delegates today.
June 1, 200818 yr I have a more favorable opinion of Christians than you seem to have. I believe that most people who attend church on Sundays would be appalled to hear their own pastor launch into the kind of tirades against another race like those we have seen coming from Trinity. If a video surfaces after Obama gets the nomination of Barack Obama cheering on Rev. Wright or Father Pfleger, Democrats can kiss the White House good bye for at least another four years. In this age of camera phones, that prospect has to be on the minds of the super delegates today. So your saying most churches are raciest free? I think you are wearing rose colored glasses are you don't attend church either one!
June 1, 200818 yr So your saying most churches are raciest free? I think you are wearing rose colored glasses are you don't attend church either one!Why ask a question, when my post obviously said no such thing? Most Christian churches are not filled with people who would enthusiastically cheer racist rants delivered from the pulpit. I am not sure that I can make that point any more clearly for you.
June 1, 200818 yr The churches I have attended have included some very, very racist people...know the families well. Also, I have attended churches with some very, very hateful feelings towards gay people. Churches are filled with people who hate. It is not just Obama's former church.
June 1, 200818 yr The churches I have attended have included some very, very racist people...know the families well. Also, I have attended churches with some very, very hateful feelings towards gay people. Churches are filled with people who hate. It is not just Obama's former church.Are you making an argument that (percentage wise) people who go to Church are more hateful then people who do not? Everywhere there are people filled with hate.
June 1, 200818 yr Are you making an argument that (percentage wise) people who go to Church are more hateful then people who do not? Everywhere there are people filled with hate. I don't know if those who attend chuch are more hate-filled than the general populace. Not necessarily(but maybe). I am just saying that the folks you saw cheering at Obama's former church may not be that unusal. Many of those at our churches might do the same thing under the right conditions.
June 1, 200818 yr The churches I have attended have included some very, very racist people...know the families well. Also, I have attended churches with some very, very hateful feelings towards gay people. Churches are filled with people who hate. It is not just Obama's former church.It sounds like you did not like what you heard at some churches and kept searching. If Obama had taken the same approach, then he would not be in this mess. That is, assuming Obama did not find what he was looking for in the pews of Trinity and sprout roots.
June 1, 200818 yr Right on schedule - well maybe just a little ahead of schedule. In a New York Times profile of the Obama-Wright relationship in April 2007, Wright himself predicted such a split based on the controversial remarks that were already under some scrutiny. “If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me,” Wright told the paper over a year ago. “I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen.” - Dr. Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Jr.'s prophetic words from April 2007
June 1, 200818 yr So because Obamas church has been exposed as racist, Obama supporters are now painting EVERY church as racist.....................WOW I have went to church my entire life, mostly Baptist(Southern, Free Will) but have also attended Pentecostal and Methodist on a regular basis and been to a Catholic Church more than once or twice and have never heard a sermon on "keep the black devil down" or anything of that nature............. You Obama supporters never cease to amaze me.
June 2, 200818 yr Author The churches I have attended have included some very, very racist people...know the families well. Also, I have attended churches with some very, very hateful feelings towards gay people. Churches are filled with people who hate. It is not just Obama's former church. So your saying most churches are raciest free? I think you are wearing rose colored glasses are you don't attend church either one!I can tell both of you that the church I attend certainly doesn't preach hatred toward ANY group of people. You are both welcome to attend mass with me anytime and judge for yourself.
June 2, 200818 yr My church is not perfect, there is no such thing. But it has different races, mixed couples. gays would be loved on as humans not sinners, we all sin. They bring food over and help ladies who have been in car wrecks. Why is Obama leading Mrs. Clinton if he has a Church problem? Is this issue too late? I heard there is a tape of Mrs. Obama calling folks "Whitey". What a mess.
June 2, 200818 yr My church is not perfect, there is no such thing. But it has different races, mixed couples. gays would be loved on as humans not sinners, we all sin. They bring food over and help ladies who have been in car wrecks. Why is Obama leading Mrs. Clinton if he has a Church problem? Is this issue too late? I heard there is a tape of Mrs. Obama calling folks "Whitey". What a mess. If the rumors about the video are true, liberals will attack Fox News for airing it instead of Mrs. Obama for starring in it. If the video really exists, it will be interesting to see the timing of its release.
June 2, 200818 yr The churches I have attended have included some very, very racist people...know the families well. Also, I have attended churches with some very, very hateful feelings towards gay people. Churches are filled with people who hate. It is not just Obama's former church. I don't know where you go to church at, but if a priest spilled out racist remarks anywhere here in NKY, 95% of the parishoners would walk out and leave the parish...
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