JV is for players not good enough to play on the varsity. To get them some at bats in game situations and see how they play defense in game situations. After 5 innings and it's 9:00pm or later, the only people that care are the mom's and dad's, whose little boys are not getting into the varsity game. 5 innings is enough for them, if they care about winning, then they need to do it in 5 innings or less!

 

 

Are you saying that if a team shouldn't have the same players on both varsity and jv teams? Or if a team doesn't have enough players to have a completely separate varsity and jv team are you saying that they shouldn't have a jv team?

Jv is apperently differently ran where you are from, because around here, it is simply just a way to get some younger kids some extra at bats that don't get in during the varsity game and some younger pitchers a few innings working on their pitching. Most of the time, they have the Varsity players Coaching them, with helmets on of course when coaching first and third bases. They are giving the signs, etc.. The Varsity coaches are either at the concession stand trying to find a snack, talking to other coaches, or sitting in the stands with a chew. If that is how the coaches are going to take a JV game, how are the umpires supposed to repect a jv game. 5 innings or an hour and 1/2 is plenty for something like this after the varsity game. If it is some time where the JV game is all they are playing, I can understand playing a real game and respecting the game, but when it's done like said above, not a chance.

They are young men who love to play the greatest game on earth.. By trying out and making the team they deserve to play... All they wanna do is play why not give them the common courticy in playing 7 innings... Dont degrade these kids because they may not have the skill level as others... They are in love with the game you say you love so 2 more ininngs isn't going to hurt anyone... There are people all over the world that would absolutely KILL to play this great game but can't for different reasons and those of us that can should feel blessed... We shouldn't take away what these kids have earned.

Jv is apperently differently ran where you are from, because around here, it is simply just a way to get some younger kids some extra at bats that don't get in during the varsity game and some younger pitchers a few innings working on their pitching. Most of the time, they have the Varsity players Coaching them, with helmets on of course when coaching first and third bases. They are giving the signs, etc.. The Varsity coaches are either at the concession stand trying to find a snack, talking to other coaches, or sitting in the stands with a chew. If that is how the coaches are going to take a JV game, how are the umpires supposed to repect a jv game. 5 innings or an hour and 1/2 is plenty for something like this after the varsity game. If it is some time where the JV game is all they are playing, I can understand playing a real game and respecting the game, but when it's done like said above, not a chance.

 

Well, first off, isn't it these same "younger" kids that will one day comprise the school's varsity team? The more experience they get, they better they become, and ultimately the more it benefits the varsity program in the long run.

 

Secondly, up here in NKY, JV is taken seriously. All games are 7 innings, people play to win, umps are paid their full amount, and there is an end-of-the-season regional tournament (which has just begun). Is it varsity? No. But it's far, far removed from a scrimmage game environment, which is indeed what you appear to be describing. And, frankly, that is a real shame for those boys in your area. It doesn't have to be that way. In fact, it shouldn't be that way.

Jv is apperently differently ran where you are from, because around here, it is simply just a way to get some younger kids some extra at bats that don't get in during the varsity game and some younger pitchers a few innings working on their pitching. Most of the time, they have the Varsity players Coaching them, with helmets on of course when coaching first and third bases. They are giving the signs, etc.. The Varsity coaches are either at the concession stand trying to find a snack, talking to other coaches, or sitting in the stands with a chew. If that is how the coaches are going to take a JV game, how are the umpires supposed to repect a jv game. 5 innings or an hour and 1/2 is plenty for something like this after the varsity game. If it is some time where the JV game is all they are playing, I can understand playing a real game and respecting the game, but when it's done like said above, not a chance.

 

 

That is deffently not how this game was being run and both teams playing in the game we started off talking about have very good JV programs. The one team I know has three JV coaches.

One thing to think about is that if the game goes longer than it should have and a player gets hurt the umpires are the first to get the lawsuit. It is bad to think about but insurance companies are making this a reality.

One thing to think about is that if the game goes longer than it should have and a player gets hurt the umpires are the first to get the lawsuit. It is bad to think about but insurance companies are making this a reality.

 

Would in be correct to say that your statement also implies that if a varsity game goes more than 7 innings the umpires could get sued if someone gets hurt in extra innings?

Well, first off, isn't it these same "younger" kids that will one day comprise the school's varsity team? The more experience they get, they better they become, and ultimately the more it benefits the varsity program in the long run.

 

Secondly, up here in NKY, JV is taken seriously. All games are 7 innings, people play to win, umps are paid their full amount, and there is an end-of-the-season regional tournament (which has just begun). Is it varsity? No. But it's far, far removed from a scrimmage game environment, which is indeed what you appear to be describing. And, frankly, that is a real shame for those boys in your area. It doesn't have to be that way. In fact, it shouldn't be that way.

 

 

There is where it becomes a problem most of the time. In some areas, an umpire gets paid 55.00 a varsity game, 45 for jv. The best paying area, central ky, they get 65 per game, any level. I don't understand why some umps get paid differently when they have the same job to do. I guess next season, a lot of game will be cancelled due to NO umpires. Umpires are getting out of baseball, not much money, too long, and just as all sports, no respect.

In NKy this isn't the case at all. In a lot of cases you could barely tell the difference between a JV and Varsity game if it wasn't for knowing the players.... and even then if its CCH or Beechwood you might get it confused

 

...JK Sorry I couldnt resist

Would in be correct to say that your statement also implies that if a varsity game goes more than 7 innings the umpires could get sued if someone gets hurt in extra innings?

 

That is not correct because the agreement is to work a full baseball game in varsity which means there has to be a winner. The J/V agreement is to work 5 and only 5. In today's world this would be a lawsuit.

That is not correct because the agreement is to work a full baseball game in varsity which means there has to be a winner. The J/V agreement is to work 5 and only 5. In today's world this would be a lawsuit.

 

So 5 innings is a standard for JV games? Set by who?

So 5 innings is a standard for JV games? Set by who?

 

 

L6,

It can be different region to region. BL-25-13 in the KHSAA Handbook allows the local policy board to set time limits or innings restrictions on below varsity level play. In our region, the maximum number of innings is five for JV baseball.

JV is for players not good enough to play on the varsity. To get them some at bats in game situations and see how they play defense in game situations. After 5 innings and it's 9:00pm or later, the only people that care are the mom's and dad's, whose little boys are not getting into the varsity game. 5 innings is enough for them, if they care about winning, then they need to do it in 5 innings or less!

 

That made no sense at all, J.V. is JUNIOR VARSITY and vasity is VARSITY. If they were the same there wouldn't be 7 inning games and 5 inning games. I also have seen plenty of players on J.V. teams that could play Varsity. But do to their grade or number of players on the Varsity team, the play J.V. It has nothing to do with not being good enough or mom's and dad's. :thumb: