From my region, the 14th, Hazard's MVP is Whitaker. They have to have him. Good point guard that makes them go and keeps his team under control....and only a sophomore.

Eta you better watch out, I bet tiger is lying to throw you and the Bulldawgs off!

 

:lol:

 

I'm sure Bardstown has some very good players otherwise they wouldn't be at the sweet 16. But I'm sure Holmes also has some VERY GOOD players as well to knock off Covcath 3 times in one year. (Had to say it sorry. All in good fun though.)

I was under the impression that the real stud from Elliott was Ferguson.

 

And a lot of people would argue that consistently Stewart is better then Smart.

 

The studs from Elliott are the Faulkners....Ferguson is a fine player, but he forces a lot of shots. Give either Faulkner his number of shots, they out average him by 5 to 6 a game. Plus both already out rebound and out assist him.

Eta you better watch out, I bet tiger is lying to throw you and the Bulldawgs off!

 

No, tiger's assessment was accurate. Hickman is a left-handed slasher. As teams have closed down on him, he has been adept at the inside-out kickout to Hall, who has just been shooting well recently.

 

Also, both guards handle the press well, where usually most teams rely upon one guy to break the press.

 

I don't think you should misunderstand - Bardstown is primarily underclassmen and we expect they will be up against a wall with Holmes. We just don't think that we're ready to mail you all the trophy just yet.

No, tiger's assessment was accurate. Hickman is a left-handed slasher. As teams have closed down on him, he has been adept at the inside-out kickout to Hall, who has just been shooting well recently.

 

Also, both guards handle the press well, where usually most teams rely upon one guy to break the press.

 

I don't think you should misunderstand - Bardstown is primarily underclassmen and we expect they will be up against a wall with Holmes. We just don't think that we're ready to mail you all the trophy just yet.

 

I don't think Bardstown has seen a team deep, athletic, and big as Holmes though. Also they haven't played a defensive team that likes to press like Holmes will. Their guards will see full court pressure the whole game.

 

But that is for another thread. I look forward to seeing the Bardstown players and seeing just how good Hickman is when he has Arrez Henderson guarding him.

 

I've heard great things about Hall and Hickman so it should be interesting.

Eta you better watch out, I bet tiger is lying to throw you and the Bulldawgs off!

 

I don't have to lie that's the good thing about Bardstown they are fun to watch because they may get down 10 or so but will keep fighting to the final horn. We have played alot of teams that are bigger but we seem to find a way to win. Size does not always win ballgames it might come down to which teams wants it the most.

I don't have to lie that's the good thing about Bardstown they are fun to watch because they may get down 10 or so but will keep fighting to the final horn. We have played alot of teams that are bigger but we seem to find a way to win. Size does not always win ballgames it might come down to which teams wants it the most.

 

This is a debate for a different thread.

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The studs from Elliott are the Faulkners....Ferguson is a fine player, but he forces a lot of shots. Give either Faulkner his number of shots, they out average him by 5 to 6 a game. Plus both already out rebound and out assist him.

 

 

 

So if Ethan or Evan took 17 shots a game they would avg 30 points a game?

 

Everybody on Elliott Co. forces shots.

Ferguson and Ethan from Elliott Co.

I don't think Bardstown has seen a team deep, athletic, and big as Holmes though. Also they haven't played a defensive team that likes to press like Holmes will. Their guards will see full court pressure the whole game.

 

But that is for another thread. I look forward to seeing the Bardstown players and seeing just how good Hickman is when he has Arrez Henderson guarding him.

 

I've heard great things about Hall and Hickman so it should be interesting.

 

Alot of Bardstown players have seen this size and bigger in the AAU circuit as they play alot together after the season. Don't get me wrong I would love to have your size but one big thing that might change the perplexion of the game is the refs. They might call it tight which could help Bardstown if you play in your face defense. Just like the regions games we had differant refs from another region and they let you play in the 5th they call it tight. So both teams will have to adjust to that but since you go 10 deep fouls might not hurt you as bad as us.

So if Ethan or Evan took 17 shots a game they would avg 30 points a game?

 

Everybody on Elliott Co. forces shots.

 

Your saying that everyone on the team forces as many shots as Ferguson?? Yes the rest of the players force some shots........All players do. However, Ferguson FORCES as many individually as the other kids on the team take in the offense. As for if the twins shooting it 17 times a game and averaging 30, yeah, they would. And on top of that they would have better assist to turnover margin (while being the primary ball handlers), more rebounds, and don't flop after every three they shoot!

Your saying that everyone on the team forces as many shots as Ferguson?? Yes the rest of the players force some shots........All players do. However, Ferguson FORCES as many individually as the other kids on the team take in the offense. As for if the twins shooting it 17 times a game and averaging 30, yeah, they would. And on top of that they would have better assist to turnover margin (while being the primary ball handlers), more rebounds, and don't flop after every three they shoot!

 

This thread isn't about who forces shots and who doesn't.

 

It's about who the one or two best players are on your team that if you take them away, would have kept your team from winning the region title so get back on topic.

 

Open up a different thread if you want to have an Elliot Co debate.

Alot of Bardstown players have seen this size and bigger in the AAU circuit as they play alot together after the season. Don't get me wrong I would love to have your size but one big thing that might change the perplexion of the game is the refs. They might call it tight which could help Bardstown if you play in your face defense. Just like the regions games we had differant refs from another region and they let you play in the 5th they call it tight. So both teams will have to adjust to that but since you go 10 deep fouls might not hurt you as bad as us.

 

Once again, this should be in a different thread. :thumb: Not this one.

This thread isn't about who forces shots and who doesn't.

 

It's about who the one or two best players are on your team that if you take them away, would have kept your team from winning the region title so get back on topic.

 

Open up a different thread if you want to have an Elliot Co debate.

 

Yes, it is about the one or two best players per team. How silly of me to rebut another post with my opinion of the best players on a certain Sweet 16 team. I guess I miss-understood, I thought this thread was about people stating their opinions on who were the best players on Sweet 16 teams and why.