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If you cannot lose your salvation......

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The world loves to point out and ridicule a fallen Christian. Satan uses a Swaggart, or Jim and Tammy Faye, for example, to demonstrate that Christians are hippocritical and secretly evil. People then use these to justify their own shortcomings and lack of morals.

This question is a simple one!

 

The reason we are actually tempted more (in my belief) is so that if/when we do fall our testimony will not be as effective as it would be if we didn't. Thus it will be harder to help save the next guy!

Satan tempted Jesus himself. Dude isn't bound by questions of salvation, just sin.

Lucifer was the original sinner. The first to do so. He sinned and was not tempted when he himself tempted Adam in the garden. And it is sad to say but the Bible tells us that all that hear about salvation will not accept it. So, Lucifer does win some away from salvation.

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Lucifer was the original sinner. The first to do so. He sinned and was not tempted when he himself tempted Adam in the garden. And it is sad to say but the Bible tells us that all that hear about salvation will not accept it. So, Lucifer does win some away from salvation.

 

Just for the record, Lucifer tempted Eve.

In the NT, we learn that Satan did not deceive Adam. Rather Adam chose to side with Eve over God. Adam knowingly made the decision to eat the apple.

Satan continues to tempt us because he desires that we fall into sin so that God is dishonored. We do not lose our salvation if we have been truly saved --- just our testimony and witness . . . and most of all --- we have glorified Satan instead of God.

We're tempted to turn off other would-be believers. On the DC talk "Jesus Freak" album (I'm showing my age) there is a little quote by the singer Carman that states:

 

"The greatest single threat to Christianity is Christians, who acknowledge Jesus with their lips but deny him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable."

 

I have a friend who is a staunch atheist (but who is a very moral person) who doesn't buy into the whole God thing b/c of the actions and words of those who say they know God.

Going back to the question "If you cannot lose your salvation.." I think Satan still likes to keep our walk from being all it could be. If he can keep us from walking close he can destroy our witness and testimony, and keep our family and friends from salvation.

I agree with IM4THEHOUNDS.

Satan continues to tempt us because he desires that we fall into sin so that God is dishonored. We do not lose our salvation if we have been truly saved --- just our testimony and witness . . . and most of all --- we have glorified Satan instead of God.

 

 

I agree.

This question is a simple one!

 

The reason we are actually tempted more (in my belief) is so that if/when we do fall our testimony will not be as effective as it would be if we didn't. Thus it will be harder to help save the next guy!

 

:thumb:

 

That was my immediate thought. Satan's goal, I suppose, is to destroy as many lives as possible by keeping them from God. What is the biggest threat to that right now? God, the Holy Spirit, working through Christians to spread the message of salvation and draw people to Him. By bringing them down, it probably makes his job of keeping non-believers from becoming believers a little easier.

 

Just a thought anyway...

Just for the record, Lucifer tempted Eve.

Gee, even I got that one right! :D

Satan has no need to mess with nonChristians, they will be joining him soon, its the Christians who are true Christians that he wants.

 

"Go ahead keep playing golf and misservice with your family".

 

"You don't need to tell others about Jesus, someone else will do it"

 

"You teenagers hate going to Bible studies, don't bring them and hear them moan"

 

"Go ahead and call her, your wife will never know"

 

"Take just a couple of $100.00 they have enough it won't be missed".

 

"You can pray tomorrow"

 

"Don't let that guy get away with that trash talk about your team, you have the right to say that".

 

"One more drink".

 

"She had no right to cut in front of you".

 

"You forgot to pay for the gas, its too high anyway and the clerk was real busy"

 

"Your red handprint will leave his face before his Mom gets home".

 

Yeah, you can Fall Away.

And resisting sin makes us stronger people, it proves our faith in God.

 

I believe Adam partook of the fruit so that he wouldn't be alone. If Eve were cast out of The Garden and Adam stayed, then how would mankind have come along? Sounds like a plan to me. They sinned, so God gave forgiveness to those that repent. Isn't that where we are all at now?

Isn't it said that God knows everything from the beginning to the end. So I would venture to say he knew this would happen, so I bet he had a backup plan. ;) (the atonement).

Isn't it said that God knows everything from the beginning to the end. So I would venture to say he knew this would happen, so I bet he had a backup plan. ;) (the atonement).

If God already knows what's going to happen, where does free will come in?

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