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Obama's Views on Hunters/Anglers/Guns

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I have no problem with background checks for handguns. Not terribly keen on the idea for a rifle, simply because a rifle is awfully unwieldy in a crime situation since crimes are often committed in close quarters. Not many robberies with an M1 Garand.

 

I am also all for Casinos too.

 

Well we have found some common ground.

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This is a terrible argument. People that are pro-gun want NO REGULATIONS.

 

fast cars are regulated - emissions, safety & it may go 200 but you have SPEED LIMITS.

 

motorcycles are regulated as well - license, speed limits, helmets

 

This is not about need or not needed it is about regulations!! People that are pro-gun want very limited regulations/rules. The problem is that EVERYTHING IS REGULATED (food, environment, speed limit, cars, building codes, fire codes, taxes, etc etc etc)

 

So you are saying firearms are NOT regulated now? :confused:

 

I suppose I should just go to the nearest store and pick up a 20 mm Vulcan right now and a Browning M2 .50 Cal.

 

Those items are heavily regulated and require licensing and registration with the Federal government and you also have to submit to an arms inspection at any point in time if you have the Class 3 License required to own either of those fully automatic weapons. The same rules apply to any fully automatic weapon.

 

I understand it in those cases however I still do not want a national registry of firearm owners and what they have except in the case of fully automatics.

 

Semi-automatics, revolvers, bolt action, lever action, pump action and the like I woud not want registered simply because it is possible, maybe unlikely i the U.S., but still possible that it could lead to a confiscation of privately owned firearms.

I believe Sen. Obama supported the Wash DC ban on ALL guns. Google it and you'll find what I'm talking about. And if DC can ban all guns, then Chicago, Cinti, Louisville and the town you live in can do the same. So much for the constitutional right to own any gun. It will have been flushed down the toilet. And if you can do that to the 2nd amendment, then any other constitutional right is subject to the same treatment.

 

Exactly.

:thumb:Good summary of the reason that our founding fathers included the right to bear arms in our Bill of Rights. The Second Amendment has nothing to do with the right to hunt (which is not a right at all but a privilege).

 

Ditto:thumb:

This is a terrible argument. People that are pro-gun want NO REGULATIONS.

fast cars are regulated - emissions, safety & it may go 200 but you have SPEED LIMITS.

 

motorcycles are regulated as well - license, speed limits, helmets

 

This is not about need or not needed it is about regulations!! People that are pro-gun want very limited regulations/rules. The problem is that EVERYTHING IS REGULATED (food, environment, speed limit, cars, building codes, fire codes, taxes, etc etc etc)

You have to be kidding. 20,000 federal, state, and local laws govern the manufacture, shipping, sale, purchase, possession, and use of guns. How much regulation do you want?

Show me something that there are more laws on the books for than guns.

You have to be kidding. 20,000 federal, state, and local laws govern the manufacture, shipping, sale, purchase, possession, and use of guns. How much regulation do you want?

Show me something that there are more laws on the books for than guns.

 

Taxes.

Taxes.
:lol: I quess I should have said show me a product that there are more laws on the books for than guns.
:lol: I quess I should have said show me a product that there are more laws on the books for than guns.

 

Prescription Drugs.

The ban has nothing to do with those. Now what?

 

You just asked me to define assault weapons and that was what I did.

So we should not ban those. Just let everyone have those in there houses to protect thereselves.

 

Which is more or less the way things are in Switzerland. Everyone serves in the military in active duty and then when their duty is over they are sent home with their gear(including their SG550 and ammo) in the event they are called up. They are also required to train with them many times a year.

 

I would not object to making that the case here.

 

You just asked me to define assault weapons and that was what I did.

 

Your definition was correct but even so, I posed earlier how difficult they are to get and the registration restrictions. To the best of my knowledge anti-tank weapons are not legal.

Which is more or less the way things are in Switzerland. Everyone serves in the military in active duty and then when their duty is over they are sent home with their gear(including their SG550 and ammo) in the event they are called up. They are also required to train with them many times a year.

 

I would not object to making that the case here.

 

 

 

Your definition was correct but even so, I posed earlier how difficult they are to get and the registration restrictions. To the best of my knowledge anti-tank weapons are not legal.

 

I don't know how easy they are to get. I don't know if it is a good idea to send a bunch of people home with full assault weapons to keep just in case they are needed. I am not against semi-automatic weapons. I think for the most part they get a bad rap. There are laws on the books about guns that are just crazy. But there are modifications that can be done to semi-automatic weapons that make them much more dangerous.

I don't know how easy they are to get. I don't know if it is a good idea to send a bunch of people home with full assault weapons to keep just in case they are needed. I am not against semi-automatic weapons. I think for the most part they get a bad rap. There are laws on the books about guns that are just crazy. But there are modifications that can be done to semi-automatic weapons that make them much more dangerous.

 

Yes but in order to obtain the parts needed to make Semi-automatic full auto it also requires a class 3 liscense.

Prescription Drugs.
Show me the comparison, I'd like to see it for myself.
Yes but in order to obtain the parts needed to make Semi-automatic full auto it also requires a class 3 license.

 

Well there you ago. Like I have stated before I am not that up on gun law. I personally don't have any need to have a house full of weapons. But I do back the constitution and it says that we have the right to bear arms so unless it is changed then it should be that way. But on the other side I can see where some of this stuff can cause a problem. People are just angry and the need for violence is out of control in this country. We are over worked, over stressed, and over spent. WE don't trust anyone and we don't slow down enough to know our neighbor. So we keep a bunch of guns in the house just in case. Just in case what the Iraqi army comes up Maple Ave. and tries to take over American. I don't see that happening. Do we need all that firepower to kill animals that can be killed with way less? According to the pro gun people we do. IMO we don't

Show me the comparison, I'd like to see it for myself.

 

It takes at least 10 years for a drug to be approved from start to finish. The cost that goes into research and trials and test on these drugs is staggering. I will have to find something that gives you a price. That is one of the reasons that it is so expensive to have these drugs. There are other factors that go along with it but that is with any billion dollar industry, just like the gun industry.

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