February 25, 200818 yr Here is the link the Barack Obama's views about hunting and fishing. http://www.barackobama.com/issues/additional/Obama_FactSheet_Western_Sportsmen.pdf
February 25, 200818 yr Here is the link the Barack Obama's views about hunting and fishing. http://www.barackobama.com/issues/additional/Obama_FactSheet_Western_Sportsmen.pdf It doesn't matter what you post about Obama, someone will refute it with "he's just lying". :lol:
February 25, 200818 yr Author It doesn't matter what you post about Obama, someone will refute it with "he's just lying". :lol: This is a very conservative forum, as you have noticed. Not many on here really want to know the facts about any Democrat. As this thread will show!!
February 25, 200818 yr I find this interesting, but to me it avoids my concerns about Obama and gun owner rights, what does he think about limiting the size of clips you can purchase, what does he think about owning assault rifles. To me the concern over second amendment isn't about hunting it's about the second amendment. The second amendment was designed to allow Americans to have weapons to defend themselves and even to be able to form militias to defend themselves, and this statement avoids this issue altogether. I would be curious how Obama confronts these issues as a former law professor. I may be wrong but I would assume he would be in favor of banning certain types of fire arms in this country.
February 25, 200818 yr Be careful SF, they will start labeling you Obama's campaign manager. Signed, Mike Huckabee's KY campaign manager :lol::sssh::dancingpa
February 25, 200818 yr Author Here are the things you must agree to when donating to Barack Obama (there is a check box that says you comply with all of these): 1. I am a United States citizen or a lawfully-admitted permanent resident. 2. I am at least 16 years old. 3. This contribution is not made from the general treasury funds of a corporation, labor organization or national bank. 4. This contribution is not made from the funds of a political action committee. 5. This contribution is not made from the treasury of an entity or person who is a federal contractor. 6. This contribution is not made from the funds of an individual registered as a federal lobbyist or a foreign agent, or an entity that is a federally registered lobbying firm or foreign agent. 7. The funds I am donating are not being provided to me by another person or entity for the purpose of making this contribution. Just some more information most of you don't want to hear. He has passed lobbyist rules & his rhetoric does match his actions.
February 25, 200818 yr Author I find this interesting, but to me it avoids my concerns about Obama and gun owner rights, what does he think about limiting the size of clips you can purchase, what does he think about owning assault rifles. To me the concern over second amendment isn't about hunting it's about the second amendment. The second amendment was designed to allow Americans to have weapons to defend themselves and even to be able to form militias to defend themselves, and this statement avoids this issue altogether. I would be curious how Obama confronts these issues as a former law professor. I may be wrong but I would assume he would be in favor of banning certain types of fire arms in this country. I do not know every specific but I do know he supports background checks and things like that. I would think that he knows the Constitution much better than hunting.
February 25, 200818 yr Here are the things you must agree to when donating to Barack Obama (there is a check box that says you comply with all of these): 1. I am a United States citizen or a lawfully-admitted permanent resident. 2. I am at least 16 years old. 3. This contribution is not made from the general treasury funds of a corporation, labor organization or national bank. 4. This contribution is not made from the funds of a political action committee. 5. This contribution is not made from the treasury of an entity or person who is a federal contractor. 6. This contribution is not made from the funds of an individual registered as a federal lobbyist or a foreign agent, or an entity that is a federally registered lobbying firm or foreign agent. 7. The funds I am donating are not being provided to me by another person or entity for the purpose of making this contribution. Just some more information most of you don't want to hear. He has passed lobbyist rules & his rhetoric does match his actions. Not casting any doubt on his contributions but claiming these things and then them actually being true can be two different things. In the political game, I could easily see someone setting this up to CYB while knowing you are accepting donations from someone that does not fit all of the above criteria.
February 25, 200818 yr Author Not casting any doubt on his contributions but claiming these things and then them actually being true can be two different things. In the political game, I could easily see someone setting this up to CYB while knowing you are accepting donations from someone that does not fit all of the above criteria. over 967,000 people have donated (on his site) so I would assume there would be some that slip through. They have stated that they returned some donations because of conflicts. I would rather a candidate take this stance than those of Clinton or McCain.
February 25, 200818 yr I find this interesting, but to me it avoids my concerns about Obama and gun owner rights, what does he think about limiting the size of clips you can purchase, what does he think about owning assault rifles. To me the concern over second amendment isn't about hunting it's about the second amendment. The second amendment was designed to allow Americans to have weapons to defend themselves and even to be able to form militias to defend themselves, and this statement avoids this issue altogether. I would be curious how Obama confronts these issues as a former law professor. I may be wrong but I would assume he would be in favor of banning certain types of fire arms in this country. Obama has said that he supports the 2nd amendment right for individuals to own guns. I'm pretty sure he does not support owning assault rifles. I do not think that Obama would ban handguns and such, but I would not be surprised if he tried to bring back the old Clinton Assault Weapon Ban, or something like it.
February 25, 200818 yr There was a debate on Stephanoupoulus show that Obama has said if the Rep candidate takes gov sponsored money for the general election, he will too. I think when they get to the general election, it should be a requirement that both go with that money to have a "level playing field." :sssh: for my P & P buddies.
February 25, 200818 yr Obama has said that he supports the 2nd amendment right for individuals to own guns. I'm pretty sure he does not support owning assault rifles. I do not think that Obama would ban handguns and such, but I would not be surprised if he tried to bring back the old Clinton Assault Weapon Ban, or something like it. I believe Sen. Obama supported the Wash DC ban on ALL guns. Google it and you'll find what I'm talking about. And if DC can ban all guns, then Chicago, Cinti, Louisville and the town you live in can do the same. So much for the constitutional right to own any gun. It will have been flushed down the toilet. And if you can do that to the 2nd amendment, then any other constitutional right is subject to the same treatment.
February 25, 200818 yr I believe Sen. Obama supported the Wash DC ban on ALL guns. Google it and you'll find what I'm talking about. And if DC can ban all guns, then Chicago, Cinti, Louisville and the town you live in can do the same. So much for the constitutional right to own any gun. It will have been flushed down the toilet. And if you can do that to the 2nd amendment, then any other constitutional right is subject to the same treatment. Trust me, my town isn't going to ban any guns. :lol:
February 25, 200818 yr I believe Sen. Obama supported the Wash DC ban on ALL guns. Google it and you'll find what I'm talking about. And if DC can ban all guns, then Chicago, Cinti, Louisville and the town you live in can do the same. So much for the constitutional right to own any gun. It will have been flushed down the toilet. And if you can do that to the 2nd amendment, then any other constitutional right is subject to the same treatment. Oh, and it might not be such a bad idea to ban all guns in Washington D.C. From what I've heard there is a lot of crime in that area. :lol: I'm kidding.
February 25, 200818 yr He will protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport, and use guns for the purposes of hunting and target shooting . Yet again a very evasive statement. Makes no statement about protecting the rights for protection or concealed carry, or what type of firearms you may own. Although he does say he beleives in the second amendment, he did not say he would protect it!
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