amen, the refs should block out some crazy comments, but when it comes down to cussing, threats, and so on they must go. The same for some coaches that I have seen. Some coaches are going overboard with the mouth running as well.

Officals should control the behavior in games but not try to determine the outcome. I have seen No perfect teams play high school basketball but when the foul total is like 8 to 1 then it is pretty obvious where the refs loyalities lie. I would hope that all anyone wants is a FAIR, consitantly called game. Too many times this year, I have seen games that were not of this sort and I think that is the reason why many fans get so upset. There are currently no standards that hold officals accountable and someone out there needs to remember that all of these kids work too hard throughout the year to have a game determined by the official.[/quote

 

This is exactly the mind set this thread addresses! You are way off base in thinking the foul count reflects biased officials. Read these other posts again that talk about the flow of the game. Teams that constantly attack the basket while playing a team that settles for outside jumpers will in general get fouled more.

 

 

:thumb: I was at a game of a 5th grade tourney last night and almost had a fight breakout between the fans. It was just ridiculous!!! The fans thought that the official were cheating them because they were from out of state and they acted like complete idiots in front of all those kids. Like IDIOTS!!! They screamed and hollered some of the craziest stuff a the officials who they believed were flat out cheating them because 1 team shot twice as many FT's in the 2nd half than the other team shot. But before some of you say..."Well, that means the officials were bias", let me inform you of a few things. For one, even thought this means little to mean but some of you hold great importance to it, the foul count was 11 to 9. The team who shot the more FT's grabbed 3 times as many rebounds as the other team and most of those were offensive rebounds. Every time the team would miss a shot or a FT, a teammate would get the rebound and draw a foul on the put back. But out of all the reasons that I've listed, the biggest reasons why the differential in FT's was aggresiveness, fatigue, and frustration!!! One team got fatigued and frustrated and led to aggresive contact which will lead to FT's.

But even none of this justified the way that the fans reacted as they walked out screaming with time still remaining on the clock with the boys looking on. The officials had to stop the game because a fight was about to break out between the adults. There was a 10 min delay in the game while the situation was resolved ultimately by the police. And now the tourney might be done with as a whole because of that incident and that's a shame. The kids are the ones who will suffer for the actions of a few crazy idiots.

On a different note: I was at a game that one team was simply overpowering the other and the better team finally had one foul called on it in the second half, it was a well called game the team was just that much better, a woman who was a fan of the better team yelled at the ref the next time he was close and said "Call it both ways ref!" I had a grin on my face the rest of the night chuckling to myself the entire game!

On a different note: I was at a game that one team was simply overpowering the other and the better team finally had one foul called on it in the second half, it was a well called game the team was just that much better, a woman who was a fan of the better team yelled at the ref the next time he was close and said "Call it both ways ref!" I had a grin on my face the rest of the night chuckling to myself the entire game!

 

 

I can't say this as perfectly as I once heard it but "Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought smart, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

 

That should be posted at all gyms!!! :lol::lol::lol: