February 10, 200818 yr Author On the bolded...Amen brother!!! A Democrat doctrine since the days of LBJ. Vote buying is illegal, but the Dems have used this method for years, at the expense of taxes and the working man. & the doctrine of "tax breaks" isn't?
February 10, 200818 yr Author Republicans and Democrats have fundamental differences between most issues. I am a proud Democrat so I support many of the same views as Obama and Clinton. I do think many of you are attempting to help the country. Who can do that, we disagree on. I do think Barack Obama would be the best candidate for the country and world. to review some other questions from other threads: 1. "universal healthcare" - this has been twisted to be a derogatory term for Republicans. Obama says he supports universal healthcare but not gov't mandated healthcare. So, you do not support having every person buy their own insurance? He is working to make it affordable for everyone. He thinks that if insurance is affordable, many people that do not have it, will buy it. 2. "abortion" - I personally oppose abortion but I am bound to the constitution & personal feelings. I cannot say a girl that is raped cannot have an abortion. The morning after pill which no one seems to oppose, is abortion. If you have sex Tuesday night, the egg & sperm join, then the pill is taken the following morning, that is abortion. Also, this is a mute point for the election since it will not be overturned & is just political propaganda. Nothing has been done in 30 yrs. 3. 45,000,000 - I dont know if this number is accurate but I know that if this is just 1/2 of the total. 22,5000,000 is a huge number. The system (hospital, insurance, costs) is not perfect, so I am willing to do something instead of doing nothing. 4. I support many gov't regulations & programs (EPA, FDA, Federal reserve, anti-trust laws, police, interstate road system, social security, medicare, medicaid). Do we have a lot of programs? sure we do, but I think the gov't is here to protect people, the environment, the economy, the monetary policy, the budget, foreign relations, etc. 5. If you read #4 & didnt like what you heard. I have noticed the # of posts many of you have made. I will assume many of you are retired b/c of those huge numbers. You better be greatful for a few unions in the past & gov't programs that have enabled retirement. I would also guess that many of you are retired state government teachers that are now being paid your salary when you were teaching and insurance!!
February 10, 200818 yr Author After (& possibly because of ) my endorsement Barack Obama swept Saturdays primaries in Washington, Nebraska, Louisiana and Virgin Islands. Let the good times roll!!
February 10, 200818 yr Republicans and Democrats have fundamental differences between most issues. I am a proud Democrat so I support many of the same views as Obama and Clinton. I do think many of you are attempting to help the country. Who can do that, we disagree on. I do think Barack Obama would be the best candidate for the country and world. to review some other questions from other threads: 1. "universal healthcare" - this has been twisted to be a derogatory term for Republicans. Obama says he supports universal healthcare but not gov't mandated healthcare. So, you do not support having every person buy their own insurance? He is working to make it affordable for everyone. He thinks that if insurance is affordable, many people that do not have it, will buy it. 2. "abortion" - I personally oppose abortion but I am bound to the constitution & personal feelings. I cannot say a girl that is raped cannot have an abortion. The morning after pill which no one seems to oppose, is abortion. If you have sex Tuesday night, the egg & sperm join, then the pill is taken the following morning, that is abortion. Also, this is a mute point for the election since it will not be overturned & is just political propaganda. Nothing has been done in 30 yrs. 3. 45,000,000 - I dont know if this number is accurate but I know that if this is just 1/2 of the total. 22,5000,000 is a huge number. The system (hospital, insurance, costs) is not perfect, so I am willing to do something instead of doing nothing. 4. I support many gov't regulations & programs (EPA, FDA, Federal reserve, anti-trust laws, police, interstate road system, social security, medicare, medicaid). Do we have a lot of programs? sure we do, but I think the gov't is here to protect people, the environment, the economy, the monetary policy, the budget, foreign relations, etc. 5. If you read #4 & didnt like what you heard. I have noticed the # of posts many of you have made. I will assume many of you are retired b/c of those huge numbers. You better be greatful for a few unions in the past & gov't programs that have enabled retirement. I would also guess that many of you are retired state government teachers that are now being paid your salary when you were teaching and insurance!! How do you have Universal Health Care without a Government Mandate? How would it get paid for? How would it be cost effective? These are answers Obama needs to address. I'm far from retirement, unions are good and bad, look at what they've done to the Auto Industry. I agree we need some programs, others we don't. The government is here to protect us(to a reasonable degree), but NOT take care of us, there is a huge difference.
February 10, 200818 yr I agree but in reality that doesn't happen. Most churches in the United States have been divided down to have minimal money and resources because of the number of denominations. When there was one church in history, the Catholic Church, they did act very similar to a government (tithe, canon laws, inquistions, & gave to the needy) I disagree. I posted a story on here over a year ago where a church in SEKY was trading medical care for reading of Scripture. There are churches everywhere that help out families with utility bills, home mortgages, clothing, food, etc etc. But yet could do more. The more denonimations and more churches just means they happen more often on personal level rather than big fancy programs.
February 10, 200818 yr & the doctrine of "tax breaks" isn't? So, allowing people to keep the money that they have worked for and earned is buying of votes?
February 10, 200818 yr 2. "abortion" - I personally oppose abortion but I am bound to the constitution & personal feelings. I cannot say a girl that is raped cannot have an abortion. The morning after pill which no one seems to oppose, is abortion. If you have sex Tuesday night, the egg & sperm join, then the pill is taken the following morning, that is abortion. Also, this is a mute point for the election since it will not be overturned & is just political propaganda. Nothing has been done in 30 yrs. !! I do not remember whether you have said whether you are a Christian or not but this question is posed with the assumption that you are a Christian. Which are you bound greater to, the Constitution or the Word of God? If it is the former, than you for your honesty. If it is the latter, do you think God and Jesus would support the killing of unborn babies for life convenience of the mother? And before you throw in rape and safety, stats show that in this country abortions for safety of the mother or rape is in the single digits. That the vast majority of abortions are truly for choice and not safety or rape.
February 10, 200818 yr So, allowing people to keep the money that they have worked for and earned is buying of votes?Yeah, that one threw me too. :creepy:
February 10, 200818 yr Not directed at Barak directly but with all the talk about excitement being built, record crowds, etc, etc, heard this morning that in the states that have already voted, 27% of registered voters had been participating. That is a record. But a record that is sad.
February 10, 200818 yr Author I do not remember whether you have said whether you are a Christian or not but this question is posed with the assumption that you are a Christian. Which are you bound greater to, the Constitution or the Word of God? If it is the former, than you for your honesty. If it is the latter, do you think God and Jesus would support the killing of unborn babies for life convenience of the mother? And before you throw in rape and safety, stats show that in this country abortions for safety of the mother or rape is in the single digits. That the vast majority of abortions are truly for choice and not safety or rape. I am a Christian & I will be judged by my God solely, just as someone that has an abortion will be judged. It is not my place to control anything that anyone else does. I am bound to both! I completely agree with the seperation of church & state. I believe religion is a personal matter & not state mandated.
February 10, 200818 yr Author How do you have Universal Health Care without a Government Mandate? How would it get paid for? How would it be cost effective? These are answers Obama needs to address. I'm far from retirement, unions are good and bad, look at what they've done to the Auto Industry. I agree we need some programs, others we don't. The government is here to protect us(to a reasonable degree), but NOT take care of us, there is a huge difference. this is the same argument that hillary is saying. You can't have universal with mandates but Barack has stated that we need to get prices down so that everyone will be able to buy insurance. For those poor at the bottom, there will need to be some subsidies though. These would be similar to pell grants and financial aid for poor wanting to go to college.
February 10, 200818 yr Author 2) How did he NOT have the opportunity to excel just because his dad was not there? My parents were divorced since I was about 3 or 4, does that mean I didn’t have the chance to excel or did I have the chance to because I’m white? Change. he has never used the race card to my knowledge & I have listened to almost every televised speech that he has made. He was born to a teen mom. were you? His dad left when he was 2. did yours? he was raised by his mom & grandparents who were not wealthy. were you? he went to columbia & then Harvard. he was the first minority president of the law review in harvard history he was a lawyer, state legislature & then a U.S. Senator All I'm saying is that I respect is determination & effort. Would GW have been president, if he wasn't daddy's boy? Would Hillary be a candidate, if not for Bill?
February 10, 200818 yr Author Yeah, that one threw me too. :creepy: this should throw you even more. while you probably agree with professor when he stated that dem's have been buying votes. You probably also think that they are the party of raising taxes. So, dems get votes for giving & also taking. Come on. you guys can do better than that.
February 10, 200818 yr this is the same argument that hillary is saying. You can't have universal with mandates but Barack has stated that we need to get prices down so that everyone will be able to buy insurance. For those poor at the bottom, there will need to be some subsidies though. These would be similar to pell grants and financial aid for poor wanting to go to college.Obama have an acutal plan or is this the typical "John Kerry, I have a plan" bunk?
February 10, 200818 yr he has never used the race card to my knowledge & I have listened to almost every televised speech that he has made. He was born to a teen mom. were you? His dad left when he was 2. did yours? he was raised by his mom & grandparents who were not wealthy. were you? he went to columbia & then Harvard. he was the first minority president of the law review in harvard history he was a lawyer, state legislature & then a U.S. Senator All I'm saying is that I respect is determination & effort. Would GW have been president, if he wasn't daddy's boy? Would Hillary be a candidate, if not for Bill? So what? All of this really means nothing, Superfan. All that matters is what his qualifications are and if he can be a good president. I don't think he is nor do I think he can. His lack of experience weighs very heavily for me.
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