Yes Ladies and Gentlemen, its as easy as that. It required no picket lines and thousand dollar ad campaigns.

 

But unless he had read about it and been informed about it, how would he know.

 

The commercials look real good. I would take my son to it. In fact when we went to a movie summer/fall, those previews were shown and we made a note that we wanted to see the movie.

 

Based upon the reports that you are saying is ridiculous, I now know something about the plot, the reason why the author wrote the book series, the anti-God them in the movie and will not be taking my son to see the movie. I will also be working with our youth minister at church to educate other parents on what this movie is truly about, so they will be informed about the movie and can make an honest decision about it.

 

Without such actions, many parents would think this is just a cool looking movie with fighting polar bears, Nicole Kidman and a good movie to take their child too.

 

Now they know better.

Remember all the fuss about The Davinci Code - even this (GC) is a kid's movie; is the uproar similar? Is it coming from the same sources?

 

This is the first I've heard of The Golden Compass; so I really don't know.

 

There has already been 1 or 2 threads on BGP about it.

 

I read an article this week that said atheists are upset about the movie. They are complaining that the atheist themes of the movie are not played up as much as they would like to inform the public about the horrors of God and Christianity.

 

It seems the movie could be an open door for a kid to read the book and here even more themes about how bad God was.

 

The article I read said the author writes that the Adam and Eve story was NOT the fall of man but the FREEDOM of man. That it freed man from God's constraints and liberated him to live free to do as he wants. My understanding that the killing of God in the book series would be the final liberation of man and truly free him to live.

http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=e120487A

 

Here's the last part of the review. Of course, it is coming from an AP movie critic.

 

Oh yes, and about that tizzy that Pullman's writings are anti-Christian, and that "The Golden Compass" foists atheism on malleable, unsuspecting children - any reference to religion is totally vague and up for interpretation. The evil body trying to manipulate young minds isn't any specific church but rather the broadly imposing Magesterium.

 

Tickle Me Elmo is more subversive. One and a half stars

I do believ in a higher power but I also know when to take things into consideratin and for what they're worth.

 

I want to see this movie first before I make a judgement about it. I know the guy that is the author of the book this movie was based on is an Atheist but that doesn't mean anything to me. If someone is truely strong enough in their beliefs, then they will not be swayed.

 

Agreed. But someone who is not might. And those are the ones we are concerned about.

http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=e120487A

 

Here's the last part of the review. Of course, it is coming from an AP movie critic.

 

Oh yes, and about that tizzy that Pullman's writings are anti-Christian, and that "The Golden Compass" foists atheism on malleable, unsuspecting children - any reference to religion is totally vague and up for interpretation. The evil body trying to manipulate young minds isn't any specific church but rather the broadly imposing Magesterium.

 

Tickle Me Elmo is more subversive. One and a half stars

 

As I said in my post, the article I read indicated that the atheistism points of the books are played down in the movie. But a concern, (as the Harry Potter books did) the movie led to many young people checking the books out. That happens here and they are then exposed to the full atheism ideas.

Harry Potter was never meant to be an attack on Christianity. This series is, especially against the Catholic Church.

 

Don't Catholics considered that to be the same thing?:sssh:

1) The Harry Potter movies led maybe 30 people to the books. The books were dominantly popular with young readers without the movies, which frankly were terrible in my opinion until the third.

 

2) I agree that there is a more substantial case of not wanting your children to read Pullman than Rowling. Pullman is absolutely, militantly atheist.

 

3) Lot's of people don't get that out of these books, especially the first-- and no one is going to get it out of this film (but if the series continues, there's no way to get around it.) I know some people that consider Pullman's series to be an accidental theological defense of Christianity. I'm not going to pretend that I get that. I enjoyed them, as a child and an adult, but I do think there are legitimate concerns about them.

 

4) IMO, the books are less an attack on Christianity than on organized religion, specifically the Catholic Church, more specifically the abuses of the historical Catholic Church as a Theocratic institution.

 

5) 'God' in the books is NOT ACTUALLY GOD. He's a fake. They don't kill 'God.' Jesus is not mentioned. If you don't know anything about the Catholic Church, you wouldn't even know it's being riffed on. Despite Pullman's personal beliefs, I read these books as arguments against authoritarian control and asceticism.

1) The Harry Potter movies led maybe 30 people to the books. The books were dominantly popular with young readers without the movies, which frankly were terrible in my opinion until the third.

 

2) I agree that there is a more substantial case of not wanting your children to read Pullman than Rowling. Pullman is absolutely, militantly atheist.

 

3) Lot's of people don't get that out of these books, especially the first-- and no one is going to get it out of this film (but if the series continues, there's no way to get around it.) I know some people that consider Pullman's series to be an accidental theological defense of Christianity. I'm not going to pretend that I get that. I enjoyed them, as a child and an adult, but I do think there are legitimate concerns about them.

 

4) IMO, the books are less an attack on Christianity than on organized religion, specifically the Catholic Church, more specifically the abuses of the historical Catholic Church as a Theocratic institution.

 

5) 'God' in the books is NOT ACTUALLY GOD. He's a fake. They don't kill 'God.' Jesus is not mentioned. If you don't know anything about the Catholic Church, you wouldn't even know it's being riffed on. Despite Pullman's personal beliefs, I read these books as arguments against authoritarian control and asceticism.

 

 

You have to be kidding. Only 30. Find 29 others cause I am one of the 30.

You have to be kidding. Only 30. Find 29 others cause I am one of the 30.

 

LBBC, if you thought you were with it and hip, I'm sorry to be the one to bust your bubble...:sssh:

LBBC, if you thought you were with it and hip, I'm sorry to be the one to bust your bubble...:sssh:

 

I am a public school teacher. I am told daily that I am not cool.

 

By the way, if you are using the terms "with it" or "hip," not sure you are either.

I am a public school teacher. I am told daily that I am not cool.

 

By the way, if you are using the terms "with it" or "hip," not sure you are either.

Just trying not to go over your head...:jump:

Don't Catholics considered that to be the same thing?:sssh:

 

As a Catholic....absolutely! :walk:

The evil body trying to manipulate young minds isn't any specific church but rather the broadly imposing Magesterium.

 

So it's only a coincidence that the Magesterium is the name for the pope in communion with the bishops of the Church? Anyone trying to fool himself into thinking that this movie is not a direct attack on the Church and, in the sequels, God Himself, needs to understand that denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

 

I read the series when I was in high school and was shocked even then. What shocks me now is that there is a studio willing to distribute these movies. I guess insulting millions of Americans isn't the financial risk it used to be. I won't go see it, that's all there is to say.

So it's only a coincidence that the Magesterium is the name for the pope in communion with the bishops of the Church? Anyone trying to fool himself into thinking that this movie is not a direct attack on the Church and, in the sequels, God Himself, needs to understand that denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

 

I read the series when I was in high school and was shocked even then. What shocks me now is that there is a studio willing to distribute these movies. I guess insulting millions of Americans isn't the financial risk it used to be. I won't go see it, that's all there is to say.

 

Had no clue what that was. Thanks for clearing it up.

 

Best thing that happens is that people choose en masse to avoid this series and it flops at the gate and the movie industry does not make a sequel.

I may go and see it with the wife, but I'd prefer to wait for the next Narnia movie to come out in May.