I think people are just looking for something to cry about. We have movies that go both ways(for and against) religion, and both sides cry. I say who cares, it's just a movie.

 

This is happening across the board and it's ridiculous. People, it seems, are terrified of the prospect that other people not only have different views, ideas, opinions, etc., than they do, but that they might actually voice or show them to the public/world. It's ridiculous. There seems to be a percentage of every group of people who want any opinion or idea contrary to theirs to be censored...I suppose this is nothing new to the world, but it certainly seems to have grown exponentially in my lifetime.

 

As I read in an online commentary a few weeks ago...and I quote..."Being offended has become an international pastime..."

 

I can't help but think of the words of Jesus from Matthew 24:10...

 

And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another.

This is happening across the board and it's ridiculous. People, it seems, are terrified of the prospect that other people not only have different views, ideas, opinions, etc., than they do, but that they might actually voice or show them to the public/world. It's ridiculous. There seems to be a percentage of every group of people who want any opinion or idea contrary to theirs to be censored...I suppose this is nothing new to the world, but it certainly seems to have grown exponentially in my lifetime.

 

As I read in an online commentary a few weeks ago...and I quote..."Being offended has become an international pastime..."

 

I can't help but think of the words of Jesus from Matthew 24:10...

 

And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another.

 

Please finish the Scripture.

 

3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"

 

4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,[a]' and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

 

9"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

 

 

When Christians teach that we should be loved by all and have a stance that appeals to all and turns none away, this stands opposite to the fact that Christians will be hated ACCORDING to Jesus Christ and BECAUSE of Jesus Christ.

 

Isn't that interesting. BECAUSE of CHRIST, people are going to HATE Christians.

 

I hope I am firm in my faith that people grow to hate me because of Jesus Christ.

 

Not a PC stance but Jesus never was PC.

http://www.pluggedinonline.com/movies/movies/a0003536.cfm

She learns that her uncle, an iconoclastic scientist named Lord Asriel, has discovered Dust, a substance he believes originates in parallel worlds. And she falls headfirst into a skirmish between him and an iron-fisted, church-like organization known as the Magisterium.

 

The Magisterium, it turns out, believes Dust incites people to rebel against its control. So Mrs. Coulter is spearheading chilling, Nazi-like experiments on children, ostensibly to "preserve" their "innocence" (read: obedience). Specifically, Mrs. Coulter and her scientists have begun separating children from their dæmons (pronounced demons), animal spirits that physically embody each person's soul, accompany them throughout life—and serve as conduits for Dust.

 

Though the series eventually finds two young protagonists and a supporting cast of witches, armored polar bears, scientists and angels confronting the Authority—a stand-in for God—those themes have been intentionally muted in this first cinematic act.

 

"How does one go about adapting a book that has controversial elements into a film that a very wide variety of people can enjoy, without betraying the original?" asks director Chris Weitz. "One tries to be clever about it. I realized that the overt stating of some of the themes in ... The Golden Compass would never—this is important to make clear—never ever get across the goal line. There isn't a wide enough audience for that—yet. If I wanted to popularize this series of extraordinary books and open them to a wider reading public than ever before, I was going to have to make some compromises."

 

Weitz went on to say that he hopes the film will be successful enough to allow him to direct the second and third installments without minimizing those stories' strident anti-church themes. "Whereas The Golden Compass had to be introduced to the public carefully, the religious themes in the second and third books can't be minimized without destroying the spirit of these books. ... I will not be involved with any 'watering down' of books two and three."

 

But even watered down, The Golden Compass is still awash in a twisted worldview and dark spirituality,

 

Such warm and cuddly sneak peeks promise something this movie doesn't deliver. This epic journey to a world in which a theocratic agency kidnaps and tortures children is grim and joyless. The violence may be generally bloodless, but the tale's tone is anything but inviting. No matter what the ads may say, it fundamentally lacks the wonder and the splendor of C.S. Lewis' and J.R.R. Tolkien's fantasy creations—not to mention their grasp of spiritual truth.

 

When Christians teach that we should be loved by all and have a stance that appeals to all and turns none away, this stands opposite to the fact that Christians will be hated ACCORDING to Jesus Christ and BECAUSE of Jesus Christ.

 

Isn't that interesting. BECAUSE of CHRIST, people are going to HATE Christians.

 

I hope I am firm in my faith that people grow to hate me because of Jesus Christ.

 

Not a PC stance but Jesus never was PC.

 

 

And then again I have met many people who claim to speak for Christ and do the most they can to be hated so they can quote this scripture. (Not referring to you directly LBC) It cuts both ways. Some remove the message of grace so that others will hate them and thereby inflate some egotist sense of "see I am doing the Father's will, they hate me just like Jesus said they would."

I recently saw this movie, I dont see what the fuss it about. Really they rip on people who mindlessly follow authority.

I recently saw this movie, I dont see what the fuss it about. Really they rip on people who mindlessly follow authority.

 

Did you see the part of the review and the quote from the director/producer that they watered down the 1st movie to get you to want to come back to part 2 and 3 in which they WILL NOT water down the anti-Christian theme?

And then again I have met many people who claim to speak for Christ and do the most they can to be hated so they can quote this scripture. (Not referring to you directly LBC) It cuts both ways. Some remove the message of grace so that others will hate them and thereby inflate some egotist sense of "see I am doing the Father's will, they hate me just like Jesus said they would."

 

I think Satan has some of his crew pose as Christ's followers to devalue the word and message of Christ.

Did you see the part of the review and the quote from the director/producer that they watered down the 1st movie to get you to want to come back to part 2 and 3 in which they WILL NOT water down the anti-Christian theme?

 

Honestly it was a good movie! You can interpret a movie however you want, no matter what it is supposed to represent. I am sure a Picasso painting is supposed to mean a certain thing, doesn't mean I think it does.

 

Without all the hub-bub, this movie is truly Award Deserving.

Honestly it was a good movie! You can interpret a movie however you want, no matter what it is supposed to represent. I am sure a Picasso painting is supposed to mean a certain thing, doesn't mean I think it does.

 

Without all the hub-bub, this movie is truly Award Deserving.

 

And again, no doubt that it looks like a good movie that I normally would take my kids to see.

 

But they have admitted that they have set the bait with this movie and will tone none of the anti-Christian rhetoric down in the sequels.

 

I have a 10 year old son. Take him to this one and he loves it with it's watered down content, what is the chance that he wants to see Compass II at the age of 12? And then he gets the full anti-God story at an age that I don't know if he can comprehend it or not.

If your Son was say 15, would you let him go see it.

 

Or would you wait till you were sure you have brainwashed him against different points on view on a subject.

I know two Catholic School religion teachers, that are very conservative, that have read the entire series of books. Neither of them feels that there is any threat posed by this movie.

 

 

Then they did not read them hard enough. The 'Magisterium' that is attacked in the series is the Roman Catholic Church merged with certain Protestant sects, and Pullman himself directly attacks the Church.

But unless he had read about it and been informed about it, how would he know.

 

The commercials look real good. I would take my son to it. In fact when we went to a movie summer/fall, those previews were shown and we made a note that we wanted to see the movie.

 

Based upon the reports that you are saying is ridiculous, I now know something about the plot, the reason why the author wrote the book series, the anti-God them in the movie and will not be taking my son to see the movie. I will also be working with our youth minister at church to educate other parents on what this movie is truly about, so they will be informed about the movie and can make an honest decision about it.

 

Without such actions, many parents would think this is just a cool looking movie with fighting polar bears, Nicole Kidman and a good movie to take their child too.

 

Now they know better.

 

I totally agree. I for one will not support an atheist or his godless world view. My 16 year son is probably strong enough in his faith that he wouldn't be swayed, but why would anyone want to spend money to support this anti-God theme? I don't think it pleases God in any shape, form or fashion. My family will not support it with our time or money. In fact we hope it is a total flop at the box office.

Agreed. But someone who is not might. And those are the ones we are concerned about.

 

Exactly.

Honestly it was a good movie! You can interpret a movie however you want, no matter what it is supposed to represent. I am sure a Picasso painting is supposed to mean a certain thing, doesn't mean I think it does.

 

Without all the hub-bub, this movie is truly Award Deserving.

 

 

Religious themes aside it was a mediocre film at best. The little girl was a terrible actress and the story was ho-hum. The only thing that was appealing was the world that it created. The acting and writing, outside of a few performances, left a lot to be desired.

 

Not worth the price of admission, wait for the DVD in my book.

If your Son was say 15, would you let him go see it.

 

Or would you wait till you were sure you have brainwashed him against different points on view on a subject.

 

Because my view is different than yours it is brainwashing or should my son be exposed to all views.

 

Including the views that espouse hatred vs. blacks, NAMBLA, and other views that I find horrific? Should I take him to see pornos or if I tell him no he can't, is that brainwashing against the pornography industry.

 

No I would not let him go.

 

We could discuss it and I would tell him why I would not let him go. But he would not be seeing it.

 

At 15, they are still not ready to filter that information. People like to think they are, but after 19 years of dealing with teenagers, no they are not.