Possible, but then 4:17 is incestuous, is it not?

 

So?

:laugh:

 

Undocumented migrant workers from another dimension hoping to get in on a better life maybe?

 

God should have built a wall and set land mines.:lol:

On a side note, what kind of test are you putting these people through, Hearsay? I mean, I thought this was one of the things NOT to talk about amongst friends...

So?

 

So, nothing, really. Just asking. Kinda makes me a little creepy-crawly, that's all.

God should have built a wall and set land mines.:lol:

 

 

A wall would have been cost prohibitive. With the fallen angels leaving with Lucifer he was short-handed so he wouldn't have had the manpower to properly build it without tons of overtime, so in order to cut costs God would just resort to landmines. :walk:

On a side note, what kind of test are you putting these people through, Hearsay? I mean, I thought this was one of the things NOT to talk about amongst friends...

 

At my house, dinner parties are all about religion and politics.

At my house, dinner parties are all about religion and politics.

 

 

Which explains the inordinate number of casualties... :bunny:

So, nothing, really. Just asking. Kinda makes me a little creepy-crawly, that's all.

 

To merge your threads, you realize that your wife is from your family since we all are traced back to Noah.

Is GOD an acronym for Grand Ole Deities?

What is the Epicopal view?

It's open to interpretation. Episcopalians take a three-legged-stool approach to source authority, with theology 'balanced' between scripture, reason and tradition. The official catechism states that the Old and New Testament are inspired by the Holy Spirit, and that the meaning is understood through the help of the Holy Spirit, who guides the church in interpretation. Both of these, in modern days, are taken with an understood caveat that because they're only inspired and not dictated, they are neither perfect nor whole. So it does no good to quote the OT or Pauline views on homosexuality to most Episcopalians who disagree with them, because we'll just say that part of the message was garbled by the hand that recorded it.

 

In other words, 'whatever man, whatever.'

 

But seriously, in practice, most clergy will relate the view that the meaning of the books requires a historical understanding, a personal commitment to reflection, and lively discussion. Bishop Ted Gulick (the head of the Diocese of Kentucky and a fine friend) once told me that to read Genesis literally was to miss the whole point.

 

It also means that very few Episcopalians are Bible-quoters and that you get a lot of discussion of ancient Greek and Hebrew in sermons.

This is useful, Hearsay:

From The Bible for Today's Church, a volume of The Church's Teaching Series [prepared at the request of the Executive Council of the General Convention of the Episcopal Church]

 

 

"Some stories in the Bible are unquestionably myths in the sense that they are symbols that have been extended into stories without losing their qualities of spontaneousness and significance. The story of the expulsion of Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden is such a myth. ... One does not have to believe that Adam and Eve were historical figures to know that people universally find it easier to do wrong than right, think they know better than God, and prefer their own wills to his.

 

 

"By the same token, there are sections of the Bible that are clearly intended to be history." (p. 78)

 

 

"To say that the Bible is authoritative for Christian belief is to say that the church today is in continuity with Israel and the early church, and that it is in essence the same community as a later period in its history. This community's classic and normative experience of Jesus and God in the history of Israel still gives our faith its basic shape today." (p. 283)

 

 

Chapter 4 "How the Bible Is Interpreted" of The Bible for Today's Church includes, among others, the following topics: The Historical-Critical Method: Background, Textual Criticism, Source Criticism, Form Criticism, Subject and Concept Exegesis, Tradition and Redaction Criticism. Note: in this context "criticism" means "analysis." Similar routine information is found in many of the Bibles, commentaries, and dictionaries available in the Bethesda Library. The Bible for Today's Church is shelved as "220.6 Ben" in our Library.

It's open to interpretation. Episcopalians take a three-legged-stool approach to source authority, with theology 'balanced' between scripture, reason and tradition. The official catechism states that the Old and New Testament are inspired by the Holy Spirit, and that the meaning is understood through the help of the Holy Spirit, who guides the church in interpretation. Both of these, in modern days, are taken with an understood caveat that because they're only inspired and not dictated, they are neither perfect nor whole. So it does no good to quote the OT or Pauline views on homosexuality to most Episcopalians who disagree with them, because we'll just say that part of the message was garbled by the hand that recorded it.

 

In other words, 'whatever man, whatever.'

 

But seriously, in practice, most clergy will relate the view that the meaning of the books requires a historical understanding, a personal commitment to reflection, and lively discussion. Bishop Ted Gulick (the head of the Diocese of Kentucky and a fine friend) once told me that to read Genesis literally was to miss the whole point.

 

It also means that very few Episcopalians are Bible-quoters and that you get a lot of discussion of ancient Greek and Hebrew in sermons.

 

Ted has supped at my home. I have always said that I would have loved to have had Ted and Al Mohler at my dinner party.

Ted has supped at my home. I have always said that I would have loved to have had Ted and Al Mohler at my dinner party.

:ylsuper: Now that's a lively discussion, methinks.

My preacher, a baptist one at that, and my father-in-law, a FORMER professor or preaching at Southern Seminary, would call many of these old testament stories - Truth Myths.

 

"It may not have happened exactly this was, but what I am about to tell you is absolutely true." Many Native Americans started their stories this way.

My preacher, a baptist one at that, and my father-in-law, a FORMER professor or preaching at Southern Seminary, would call many of these old testament stories - Truth Myths.

 

"It may not have happened exactly this was, but what I am about to tell you is absolutely true." Many Native Americans started their stories this way.

I can agree with this. It's true, but it may not be the whole truth, as we would have understood it 4000 years ago.