October 8, 200719 yr First, it was 190something schools and not just a handful of schools on the board. You do understand that the Board STOPPED Prop 20 and not proposed or passed it. You do understand that the new proposals are from the schools and NOT the board. Second, were you involved in the decision making to give first hand accounts that it was not in the best interest or just your opinion because they don't always make decisions that agree with you. Cause I would love to hear your accounts rather than loosely based comments that are not based in facts and take shots at people that work very hard in helping provide athletic contests for these young men and ladies. Third, every decision is going to hurt someone's best interests. For example, they are realigning the golf regions and a proposal to go from two teams and individually (3 on boys' side and 5 on the girls' side)representing each region to one team and top 10 on each side. Now for those in regions where there are powerhouses like a Notre Dame or a Sacred Heart or a Glasgow, the kids who have earned their way as the team runner-up, it won't happen anymore. But individually, more individual schools will be getting to the state tournament with one golfer. So you have hurt the best interests of the second tiered schools aiming for that 2nd team spot for the best interests of individual golfers. You have taken a team sport and turned the focus at so many schools to individuals. I disagree with this decision and have emailed so. But if they decide to go that route, I won't claim that they are not doing what is in the best interests of the kids but work in that system till the time the system is overhauled again. I put board by mistake. I can go on and on about mistakes I believe the khsaa have made. If you think the original move of putting Harlan Co. in a football district with Sheby Co, Scott Co, Madison Central, etc is for the best interest of the kids anywhere then you are mistaken. Also, while I do understand it is a rule, was it in Rodney Haddix's best interest to not let him play sports his senior year of high school in Kentucky? He had to go to a prep school in order to play sports his senior year and move away from his family and friends. Thats a high-profile case, but this stuff happens all the time with the KHSAA.
October 8, 200719 yr I put board by mistake. I can go on and on about mistakes I believe the khsaa have made. If you think the original move of putting Harlan Co. in a football district with Sheby Co, Scott Co, Madison Central, etc is for the best interest of the kids anywhere then you are mistaken. Also, while I do understand it is a rule, was it in Rodney Haddix's best interest to not let him play sports his senior year of high school in Kentucky? He had to go to a prep school in order to play sports his senior year and move away from his family and friends. Thats a high-profile case, but this stuff happens all the time with the KHSAA. I have zero clue on who Rodney Haddix is, so I can make no comment on that situation. I will say that you say it is a rule, do you want the KHSAA staff to enforce the rules as the HS's put them in place during the delegate assemblies or do you want them to pick and choose which ones they enforce? If the rule is an unfair rule, I would expect that Rodney Haddix's school has filed a proposal to change that rule at this year's delegate assembly. For every high profile case that is bandied about in the press, I wonder how many no to low profile cases go through the system in the best interests of the kid and we know nothing about it. I know I have had a couple different kids move in, paperwork filed, approved and no big deal. But all you hear about is the high profile ones, not the hundreds that go through with no press coverage. Is the KHSAA right on everything? Heavens sake no. But I don't believe they are some sort of evil organization with the athletes on puppet strings doing their evil bidding either.
October 8, 200719 yr I have zero clue on who Rodney Haddix is, so I can make no comment on that situation. I will say that you say it is a rule, do you want the KHSAA staff to enforce the rules as the HS's put them in place during the delegate assemblies or do you want them to pick and choose which ones they enforce? If the rule is an unfair rule, I would expect that Rodney Haddix's school has filed a proposal to change that rule at this year's delegate assembly. For every high profile case that is bandied about in the press, I wonder how many no to low profile cases go through the system in the best interests of the kid and we know nothing about it. I know I have had a couple different kids move in, paperwork filed, approved and no big deal. But all you hear about is the high profile ones, not the hundreds that go through with no press coverage. Is the KHSAA right on everything? Heavens sake no. But I don't believe they are some sort of evil organization with the athletes on puppet strings doing their evil bidding either. Here is the thing. There are some good people who work for the KHSAA who I believe try to do what is right. But there are several people who help in making decisions who are corrupt who do not have all the student's best interest at heart.
October 8, 200719 yr Here is the thing. There are some good people who work for the KHSAA who I believe try to do what is right. But there are several people who help in making decisions who are corrupt who do not have all the student's best interest at heart. :thumb: I can live with not all the people have the correct mindset. But I believe this accurate on both sides of the aisle, too. Not all the people on the private's side has the correct mindset either. I believe that is true of most if not all organizations. But a general sweeping statement that the KHSAA is not about the best interest's of the child indites many that do have the mindset in the right place.
October 8, 200719 yr If I am not mistaken, those schools are filled with ????????????????????? O Yeah, kids that they are supposed to be representing. Those schools are filled with a small sub-group of kids. IMO the board should take the best interests of ALL the kids involved in the decisions they make. I don't think that happens nearly enough. It is a necessary evil to have a governing body, but politics are politics... My first beef is that many members of the board are serving for self serving purposes... Here is my 2nd beef - the KHSAA makes too many decisions that inhibit kids and their ability to play various sports based on their fear of the actions of the adults around them... These decisions hurt kids, and are out of kids control. I think that stinks.
October 9, 200719 yr Also, while I do understand it is a rule, was it in Rodney Haddix's best interest to not let him play sports his senior year of high school in Kentucky? He had to go to a prep school in order to play sports his senior year and move away from his family and friends. Thats a high-profile case, but this stuff happens all the time with the KHSAA. It wasn't in his best interest, but it was in the best interest of the thousands of other athletes who follow the rules. How could they let him play after not letting the athlete at Middlesboro play who did the same thing? That's the point of having rules.
October 9, 200719 yr Those schools are filled with a small sub-group of kids. IMO the board should take the best interests of ALL the kids involved in the decisions they make. I don't think that happens nearly enough. It is a necessary evil to have a governing body, but politics are politics... My first beef is that many members of the board are serving for self serving purposes... Here is my 2nd beef - the KHSAA makes too many decisions that inhibit kids and their ability to play various sports based on their fear of the actions of the adults around them... These decisions hurt kids, and are out of kids control. I think that stinks. In the Prop 20 area, didn't the board NOT support it? Where is the problem there? KHSAA makes decisions a lot of times based upon adults on the local level not following the guidelines.
October 9, 200719 yr It wasn't in his best interest, but it was in the best interest of the thousands of other athletes who follow the rules. How could they let him play after not letting the athlete at Middlesboro play who did the same thing? That's the point of having rules. I think it is a horrible rule. I believe the kid from Middlesboro should be allowed to play as well. Also, there is a kid from Pineville who I believe moved to Tennessee in order to play his senior year. The thing is, I don't believe these kids go back to the 8th grade realizing what is at stake. Why not give kids who are young enough to compete a 2nd chance?
October 9, 200719 yr I don't understand your reference to DeSales. Have they been multiplied? DeSales is an all- male Catholic high school their enrollment would place them in 1A, however on account of their not having any female students they are doubled for classicfication purposes.
October 9, 200719 yr I think it is a horrible rule. I believe the kid from Middlesboro should be allowed to play as well. Also, there is a kid from Pineville who I believe moved to Tennessee in order to play his senior year. The thing is, I don't believe these kids go back to the 8th grade realizing what is at stake. Why not give kids who are young enough to compete a 2nd chance? Why penalize all those who followed the RULE? Every school in Kentucky received the memo from the KHSAA.
October 9, 200719 yr DeSales is an all- male Catholic high school their enrollment would place them in 1A, however on account of their not having any female students they are doubled for classicfication purposes.A multiplier isn't the same thing. For example ... let's say DeSales has 300 kids. Their enrollment is doubled to 600 for classification purposes because it's an all-male school. A multiplier of 1.5 would increase DeSales' classification figure to 900 (1.5 x 600). Holy Cross is coed, so their enrollment isn't doubled. If Holy Cross' enrollment is 300, a 1.5 multiplier would put them at 450.
October 9, 200719 yr Why penalize all those who followed the RULE? Every school in Kentucky received the memo from the KHSAA. I'm sure a lot of schools has not got all the athletes together and explained this to them. They are being pentalized for doing something they did not know would hurt them. You are not going to convince me it is a good rule or 1 that I think should be enforced simply because its punishing students who did not understand what the outcome of their decision would be.
October 9, 200719 yr A multiplier isn't the same thing. For example ... let's say DeSales has 300 kids. Their enrollment is doubled to 600 for classification purposes because it's an all-male school. A multiplier of 1.5 would increase DeSales' classification figure to 900 (1.5 x 600). Holy Cross is coed, so their enrollment isn't doubled. If Holy Cross' enrollment is 300, a 1.5 multiplier would put them at 450. So it is added AFTER that? Yow!!! That would make Trinity and St.X HUGE. That would make Trinity about 4200 by that method. :scared:
October 9, 200719 yr I'm sure a lot of schools has not got all the athletes together and explained this to them. They are being pentalized for doing something they did not know would hurt them. You are not going to convince me it is a good rule or 1 that I think should be enforced simply because its punishing students who did not understand what the outcome of their decision would be. I've been told that parents, in several places, were told and chose to ignore the rule and the warnings. Once you penalized the first one, you can't take it back. That's what would be unfair. It's not that complicated. Just stay back in the seventh grade.
October 9, 200719 yr I've been told that parents, in several places, were told and chose to ignore the rule and the warnings. Once you penalized the first one, you can't take it back. That's what would be unfair. It's not that complicated. Just stay back in the seventh grade. Plus barring some special event by the time you are in 8th grade it is pretty obvious whether you are up to par with your peers. Correct me if I am wrong, but I would bet that retaining a kid after elementary school is very very rare.
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