August 23, 200719 yr The courts did not think so about funding when they declared the state education funding system unconstitutional. I would say it is more equal than just comparable. The big push is a state approved curriculum so that the SAME THING is being taught in every single school in the state. So one of the things I am seeing is uniformity across the state in so much of what we do. I feel that equal or the same thing is what we are being led to. Do other public school teachers on here feel the same? Sounds rather similar to communism to me...
August 23, 200719 yr Author Sounds rather similar to communism to me... No, not at all. Do you not want KY history being taught the same throughout the state. At 6th grade they learn this about KY. 7th grade this. 8th grade this. Do you not want basics of geomerty being taught the same in Paducah as it is in Paintsville. I may been unclear. They are getting very specific on what timelines of US History and events in that timeline that are being taught in the 6th grade. What is being taught in 7th grade, etc. The state has said THIS is what we are going to test you on in the 7th grade and so THIS is what you will learn. So in essence a kid is attending school in Paducah and his family moves to Paintsville, as far as their history class, they should move into it fairly seamless.
August 23, 200719 yr No, not at all. Do you not want KY history being taught the same throughout the state. At 6th grade they learn this about KY. 7th grade this. 8th grade this. Do you not want basics of geomerty being taught the same in Paducah as it is in Paintsville. I may been unclear. They are getting very specific on what timelines of US History and events in that timeline that are being taught in the 6th grade. What is being taught in 7th grade, etc. The state has said THIS is what we are going to test you on in the 7th grade and so THIS is what you will learn. So in essence a kid is attending school in Paducah and his family moves to Paintsville, as far as their history class, they should move into it fairly seamless. Not if my kid can zip through these subjects at an earlier age. Special Ed students are given an IEP (Individualized Education Plan) to meet their needs. The advanced kids should be allowed/encouraged/required to move faster/deeper in the subjects. Holding these children back is counter-productive to their education. The state is wrong. The system is flawed.
August 23, 200719 yr Author Not if my kid can zip through these subjects at an earlier age. Special Ed students are given an IEP (Individualized Education Plan) to meet their needs. The advanced kids should be allowed/encouraged/required to move faster/deeper in the subjects. Holding these children back is counter-productive to their education. The state is wrong. The system is flawed. That is there when getting to the HS, too. My daughter is taking Algebra I as an 8th grader. She gets a B or higher and does not have to take it as a freshmen. And it qualifies her to take a higher level geometry class as a freshmen instead of geometry as a sophomore.
August 23, 200719 yr That is there when getting to the HS, too. My daughter is taking Algebra I as an 8th grader. She gets a B or higher and does not have to take it as a freshmen. And it qualifies her to take a higher level geometry class as a freshmen instead of geometry as a sophomore. That's a great incentive. The state has tried to put these kids in a box and outline the curriculum step by step... Kids are not the same. Their individual learning styles and interests should be taken into account. In my opinion - all this money spent on KERA and developing the Core Content and Program of Studies and Depth of Knowledge could have been spent to put several additional teachers at each school - decreasing the class size and allowing teachers to provide more individualized instruction.
August 23, 200719 yr Author That's a great incentive. The state has tried to put these kids in a box and outline the curriculum step by step... Kids are not the same. Their individual learning styles and interests should be taken into account. In my opinion - all this money spent on KERA and developing the Core Content and Program of Studies and Depth of Knowledge could have been spent to put several additional teachers at each school - decreasing the class size and allowing teachers to provide more individualized instruction. Amen Brother. You are preaching to the choir, here.:jump:
August 23, 200719 yr My point is that you can have equal funding, equal cirriculums, equal support and it still comes down to an individual teacher . Some are very good. Some are not - both public and private - rural and urban. You can mandate all you want but you can never actually produce equal education received. I agree have taught in both private and public schools. good & bad in both ! !
August 23, 200719 yr I agree have taught in both private and public schools. good & bad in both ! ! Sure there are because human beings hire other human beings.
August 23, 200719 yr Well, since I've had my kids in "privitized" schools for years, I can tell you that not once did Assumption or Trinity "inflate" my kids' grades to make them look better. And, since I know a lot of kids at Mercy, St. X, Holy Cross, and Sacred Heart, I can tell you, they didn't either. Good. But if all schools were privatized, do you think there would be no bad apples? It would be like any other company. Sometimes you get a plumber you can trust, some do shoddy work and overcharge.
August 23, 200719 yr Author Good. But if all schools were privatized, do you think there would be no bad apples? It would be like any other company. Sometimes you get a plumber you can trust, some do shoddy work and overcharge. If you bring a plumber into the analogy, YOU HAVE to have a butt crack joke. I think it is in the plumber's union bylaws.:lol:
August 23, 200719 yr If you bring a plumber into the analogy, YOU HAVE to have a butt crack joke. I think it is in the plumber's union bylaws.:lol: I've done it before and it didn't seem to attract much attention so I've sworn off crack jokes.
August 23, 200719 yr Author I had one in the P&R thread about the naked people on the glacier. Didn't seem to attract much attention so I've sworn off crack jokes. P & R is a more intelligent :sssh: crowd, so you have to have a sharper wit. Butt cracks is right up GD's alley.:lol:
August 23, 200719 yr Good. But if all schools were privatized, do you think there would be no bad apples? It would be like any other company. Sometimes you get a plumber you can trust, some do shoddy work and overcharge. Ahhh...the beauty of private schools. You don't perform, you don't teach! And no unions!
August 23, 200719 yr I've done it before and it didn't seem to attract much attention so I've sworn off crack jokes. Oh, it attracted attention alright! It was actually the source of a minor back-of-house debate! :lol:
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