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One reason why I question if we can have real success in any Middle Eastern Country.

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This is what we're fighting. Hamas ended this t.v. show featuring a Mickey Mouse-like character supossedly being killed by Israeli interrogators as 3 and 4-year-olds watch. How do you deal with this kind of mindset?

 

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Sounds like Southpark.

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Sounds like Southpark.
Except Southpark isn't geared for 3 and 4 year olds.
Except Southpark isn't geared for 3 and 4 year olds.

 

True. But other evils, such as prejudice, hatred and racism, are many times already taught/learned by that age in our own country. Luckily, we don't have a TV show for it...yet. Mostly they just learn it by example.

 

It is hard to hope for good to come when anyone is teaching their children these things at an early age.

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True. But other evils, such as prejudice, hatred and racism, are many times already taught/learned by that age in our own country. Luckily, we don't have a TV show for it...yet. Mostly they just learn it by example.

 

It is hard to hope for good to come when anyone is teaching their children these things at an early age.

Umm, I'm not quite sure how to take this post.
True. But other evils, such as prejudice, hatred and racism, are many times already taught/learned by that age in our own country. Luckily, we don't have a TV show for it...yet. Mostly they just learn it by example.

 

It is hard to hope for good to come when anyone is teaching their children these things at an early age.

 

You are comparing apples to car bombs here. In our country, prejudice and racism manifests itself in FAR less violent fashions than in the ME. I realize this isn't always true and of course our country has seen its share of race related violence in the past. Today, in the U.S., prejudice and racism manifests itself with limited job opportunities, name calling, mistrust, and yes occasionally violence. In the ME, it manifests itself in the form of brutal violence with regularity.

You are comparing apples to car bombs here. In our country, prejudice and racism manifests itself in FAR less violent fashions than in the ME. I realize this isn't always true and of course our country has seen its share of race related violence in the past. Today, in the U.S., prejudice and racism manifests itself with limited job opportunities, name calling, mistrust, and yes occasionally violence. In the ME, it manifests itself in the form of brutal violence with regularity.

 

So, it's better that we do it in a more sneaky manner?

 

To me, it's wrong, and maybe even more wrong because those being discriminated against may not even know who their enemies are.

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Whoa folks, do you understand the point of the video? We're talking about a t.v. show for little kids, please give me an example where we have t.v. shows for kids that teach hatred for it's fellow man.

So, it's better that we do it in a more sneaky manner?

 

To me, it's wrong, and maybe even more wrong because those being discriminated against may not even know who their enemies are.

 

 

Wow, you completely missed the point. ;) I was referring to the "violent nature" of the problems in the ME vs. the U.S. Obviously all forms of racism/bigotry/intolerance are vile.

 

 

If one wants to see real bigotry/hatred/intolerence just check out Rwanda, the Darfur region of Africa/Sudan, and basically every country in the region referred to as "The Middle East".

 

We should consider ourselves lucky to have the peaceful bigotry/intolerence that we experience for the most part in the U.S. :D (I'm semi-joking here, but only semi).

The way I have always seen it, we kill the top 50 "evil-doers" or whomever we are after, we kill a few other terrorists along the way. That's great, but what about their kids, what about their family. Not to mention all the young kids that grow up in violence, get told how evil America is and then they see America kill their father or their friends.

 

It's a cycle that has been going on over there for years and years even without our help. Now that we are waist deep in it, we think we are going to change things in the middle east.

Umm, I'm not quite sure how to take this post.

 

Here is how I intended it to be taken:

 

1. It is terrible to show killing in a cartoon video format aimed at 3-4 yros.

2. It is terrible to teach children to hate people or groups of people.

The way I have always seen it, we kill the top 50 "evil-doers" or whomever we are after, we kill a few other terrorists along the way. That's great, but what about their kids, what about their family. Not to mention all the young kids that grow up in violence, get told how evil America is and then they see America kill their father or their friends.

 

It's a cycle that has been going on over there for years and years even without our help. Now that we are waist deep in it, we think we are going to change things in the middle east.

 

Good post, HC.

You are comparing apples to car bombs here. In our country, prejudice and racism manifests itself in FAR less violent fashions than in the ME. I realize this isn't always true and of course our country has seen its share of race related violence in the past. Today, in the U.S., prejudice and racism manifests itself with limited job opportunities, name calling, mistrust, and yes occasionally violence. In the ME, it manifests itself in the form of brutal violence with regularity.

 

Racial hatred and killings happen in the US. The killings are not as frequent as the car bombings that we are now seeing in Iraq (though they were in our not so ancient past), since we are there, but to say that it is comparing "apples to car bombs" might be a slap in the face to families in our own country that have lost a loved one in a racially motivated killing.

 

Do we not consider the hatred that some Middle Easterners have for Americans a type of prejudice? How are the two so different?

I'm not sure which doctrination for children is more harmful to us.

 

The Middle Eastern one that proclaims "Kill the Great Satan"

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the American one that proclaims "Everything is beautiful, in its own way..."

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