Seems ironic, don't you think, that we are talking about trick plays or unsporstsmanlike conduct that in most cases was thought of by adults and not the kids playing the game.

 

I do agree with retaliation for unsportsmanlike play. This has has been part of the game for a long time and will continue to be. It should not be intended to hurt or mame, but to remind your competitors that you understand what they were doing and it won't be tolerated.

What about this, OR?

I know where your going......I get it.......

 

My opinion is that deking is part of the game(at the MLB level) and is not a direct interference or obstruction of a play. Yes, yes I know it indirectly can prevent a runner from advancing and can be a part of a play, but it doesn't have the same connotation as the "I got it" play. Some things are widely accepted as part of the game, some are not.

 

On a side note I saw this at a HS game this year. Runner on 1st. Pitch goes to backstop and SS tells the runner that it was a "foul ball", go back to 1st, upon doing so the player was tagged out. The umpire in the field called time and awarded the runner 3rd base? Not sure if awarding 3rd is correct, but I agree with the sentiment. Should this also be part of the game?

Seems ironic, don't you think, that we are talking about trick plays or unsporstsmanlike conduct that in most cases was thought of by adults and not the kids playing the game.

 

I do agree with retaliation for unsportsmanlike play. This has has been part of the game for a long time and will continue to be. It should not be intended to hurt or mame, but to remind your competitors that you understand what they were doing and it won't be tolerated.

Absolutely.....:thumb:

More thoughts on this one: (btw, did happen in nk hs)

runners on first and third, one out; pitcher into stretch, runner on first begins jogging slowly directly down the line toward the foul pole in right field....pitcher steps off in confusion....right fielder begins to move toward 'leading off' runner....pitcher confused...checks runner on third -waiting...pitcher ultimately throws to short right field, lead off guy runs directly back toward first...runner on third scores.....what is that? Good baseball, trickery, cheating, creativity????

More thoughts on this one: (btw, did happen in nk hs)

runners on first and third, one out; pitcher into stretch, runner on first begins jogging slowly directly down the line toward the foul pole in right field....pitcher steps off in confusion....right fielder begins to move toward 'leading off' runner....pitcher confused...checks runner on third -waiting...pitcher ultimately throws to short right field, lead off guy runs directly back toward first...runner on third scores.....what is that? Good baseball, trickery, cheating, creativity????

None of the above....... it is a travesty to the game

 

Per NFHS rules, the runner is out when:

 

8-4-2o he positions himself behind a base to get a running start

 

8-4-2n he runs the bases in a manner to confuse opponents or make a travesty of the game

 

I do believe this is a Beechwood specialty, no? I have seen this before, but not in the manner you described. Usually the runner takes his lead somewhere near the edge of the outfield grass in between 1st and 2nd.

None of the above....... it is a travesty to the game

 

Per NFHS rules, the runner is out when:

 

8-4-2o he positions himself behind a base to get a running start

 

8-4-2n he runs the bases in a manner to confuse opponents or make a travesty of the game

 

I do believe this is a Beechwood specialty, no? I have seen this before, but not in the manner you described. Usually the runner takes his lead somewhere near the edge of the outfield grass in between 1st and 2nd.

 

OR - you will not see an umpire invoke either rule you list. The "snake in the grass" play (or in NKY the Bob Myerhoff play) is legal.

OR - you will not see an umpire invoke either rule you list. The "snake in the grass" play (or in NKY the Bob Myerhoff play) is legal.

Even in the scenario where the runner walks down the foul line? I'm not sure about that one, I do know that the other version has been deemed legal.

Even in the scenario where the runner walks down the foul line? I'm not sure about that one, I do know that the other version has been deemed legal.

 

 

Correct. The runner can do whatever he wants until there is a play on him. He can zig zag, do summersalts, skip to my lou, whatever he wants. Once he starts towards the next base or back to the previous base, he then establishes a base line.