I'll take a freebie shot just for fun and only because I guessed the extortion angle in another thread before it became public:ylsuper:

 

Thurman was there. Just too risky and too stupid to make up the entire thing and leave youself open to filing false police report charge. There was an altercation - probably just a small tussle - in which Thurman or one of his posse was involved. The other parties - "victims" is probably an overstatement - didn't contact police right away because: 1) it really wasn't all that big of a deal; and/or 2) there were illegal drugs involved and they couldn't really afford to call police at that time, and/or 3) they sat around and came up with the clever idea of trying to blackmail Thurman first and needed to wait until morning to try to contact him. Obviously, the extortion thing didn't go too well. I'm guessing the prosecutor politely "suggested" to our "victims" that given their failed extortion attempt, it might be better to let sleeping dogs lie. Ergo, complaints are withdrawn.

 

Just a freebie guess.

 

But . . one would hope that it would be a learning experience for Thurman. Unfortunately, he impresses me as someone with the IQ of a doorknob and just have this feeling that he won't be able to stay out of trouble for long. But everyone (most everyone) grows up at some point and maybe this is his point.

 

I'd say your guess is closer to the truth than the potential taxi cab service theory.

 

However, I think you're peeing into the wind if you think such an episode would be a "learning experience" for OT. Too many of those chances have zipped right through his apparently cavernous gord.

Teams do backrounds on players, the follow players around, etc.

 

I don't know if there is precedent but maybe it is time to set one. Either way, if the NFL is serious about their image they have to investigate claims like this.

 

Not saying it's necessarily a bad idea, but if there is no such formal policy already established to investigate such matters, then it would seem a bit unfair to arbitrarily implement such a policy starting with this incident with Thurman. Hey, I hate the guy, but when you're dealing with a man's livelihood, I don't think you go on some first-time, never-been-done-before, freelance investigation to find the truth. The "truth", as it stands now, is that there are no charges being filed agaisnt Thurman.

Not saying it's necessarily a bad idea, but if there is no such formal policy already established to investigate such matters, then it would seem a bit unfair to arbitrarily implement such a policy starting with this incident with Thurman. Hey, I hate the guy, but when you're dealing with a man's livelihood, I don't think you go on some first-time, never-been-done-before, freelance investigation to find the truth. The "truth", as it stands now, is that there are no charges being filed agaisnt Thurman.

 

Pacman - any charges filed against him? I don't recall.

So what can you guys tell me about the past with OT and these people from his home town? Amazing the claims being thrown around with no backing at all. At least nothing outside of OT having a bad past...

Hey, I hate the guy

Nice..

Not saying it's necessarily a bad idea, but if there is no such formal policy already established to investigate such matters, then it would seem a bit unfair to arbitrarily implement such a policy starting with this incident with Thurman. Hey, I hate the guy, but when you're dealing with a man's livelihood, I don't think you go on some first-time, never-been-done-before, freelance investigation to find the truth. The "truth", as it stands now, is that there are no charges being filed agaisnt Thurman.

 

I have been beating this drum for awhile now. Here is one of the posts.

So what can you guys tell me about the past with OT and these people from his home town? Amazing the claims being thrown around with no backing at all. At least nothing outside of OT having a bad past...

 

Who needs backing? When your reputation precedes you as a criminal with many past incidents, its only logical that people assume the guy to be what he is - a derelict who is fortunate that he can play football.

 

I'm not a police officer, district attorney, or a juror so I can speculate all day long.

gt,

 

The great thing about a good investigation is it can clear OT if he didn't do anything wrong.

 

For the life of me I don't understand anyone's objections to being informed on any topic.

gt,

 

The great thing about a good investigation is it can clear OT if he didn't do anything wrong.

 

For the life of me I don't understand anyone's objections to being informed on any topic.

I'm just not sure it's a good idea for the NFL to be going over the court on claims like this.

 

It seems most on this thread think Odell was at this party in his home town. Who? What? When? Where? Why? How? After 4 days I don't have an answer to any of the 5 questions.

 

Is it likely Odell ruins his career at some point in the near future? Yes. All I get from looking in to this situation for four days is extortion. From there we are all guessing. And assuming on one side or the other...

I have been beating this drum for awhile now. Here is one of the posts.

 

There's A LOT of problem-child players in the NFL and your plan would require a pretty healthy staff of highly-trained (and well-paid) investigators - investigators who, by the way, would have no subpoena authority, no authority to compel a witness to talk or to take some recourse if the witness fed you a line of garbage, less-than-complete access to police records/evidence, etc.. Could it work? Maybe. But there would need to be a well thought-out plan put in place before you could begin to try something along thse lines. Oh, and I'm guessing the plan would likely have to be approved by the player's union.:fire:

This is where we agree to disagree gt. The NFL is not going over the court so to speak. The NFL would be doing their own independent investigation and they would be well within their rights to do so. The NFL is a multi-billion dollar entertainment empire and in my opinion they are derelict in their duties if they fail to investigate anything that threatens their empire.

 

Also, the NFL could keep the outcome of the investigations confidential and only use them to determine the future of players like OT, CH, and PacMan. In other words, I can live with the NFL being judge and jury of their own private empire.

There's A LOT of problem-child players in the NFL and your plan would require a pretty healthy staff of highly-trained (and well-paid) investigators - investigators who, by the way, would have no subpoena authority, no authority to compel a witness to talk or to take some recourse if the witness fed you a line of garbage, less-than-complete access to police records/evidence, etc.. Could it work? Maybe. But there would need to be a well thought-out plan put in place before you could begin to try something along thse lines. Oh, and I'm guessing the plan would likely have to be approved by the player's union.:fire:

 

Nothing worthwhile is easy!

 

For the record, I feel confident that experienced investigators could get very close to the truth no matter how many hurdles they have to leap. Besides, it goes both ways, a private investigator doesn't have to follow the straight and narrow like the government does.

gt,

 

The great thing about a good investigation is it can clear OT if he didn't do anything wrong.

 

For the life of me I don't understand anyone's objections to being informed on any topic.

 

Well, to be clear here, I hate Thurman because he screwed the Bengals last season. But why an informal, non-law enforcment investiagtion into a matter in which the proper law enforcement/court officials have already decided not to file charges? Because at this point, there is legally nothing from which Thurman has to be "cleared" - other than public perception and forums like this, neither of which will decide whether he gets reinstated anyways.

So you are willing to trust the NFL "legal team" over the officers on the scene? I'm sure both sides would get along well...

Nothing worthwhile is easy!

 

For the record, I feel confident that experienced investigators could get very close to the truth no matter how many hurdles they have to leap. Besides, it goes both ways, a private investigator doesn't have to follow the straight and narrow like the government does.

 

:laugh: :laugh: Only laughing because I am a federal agent who has to follow the straight and narrow. But I would warn all those private investigators who choose not to do so that they can be arrested and prosecuted for breaking the law just as easily as one of our wayward Bengals players.