If that is the case then how does "Independent" fit into the equation?

 

In the future those schools will be called "semi-private".:lol:

I don't like Prop 2 at all but if you are going to have such an animal it should effect all schools exactly the same.

 

How could that (effecting all schools exactly the same) ever be possible?

 

In NKY alone you have:

 

*** Small city independent school districts like Dayton and Ludlow

 

*** Larger city independent school districts like Covington, Newport and Fort Thomas

 

***Dio.of Covington school district that emcompasses four counties

 

***Open enrollment county school districts like Kenton Co.

 

***Closed enrollment county school districts like Boone Co.

 

I can't believe no one in the KHSAA/BOC organization was assigned to do any research on the proposal. Heck if they just read Bluegrasspreps they could see all the legal problems that will follow. Are these people really that out of touch?

Here is the way one insider has interpreted some of these questions for me:

 

1. The schools will submit a list of what schools are considered their "feeder schools" to the KHSAA for approval. The list, of course, will be based upon their school district boundaries, so no, in that sense the KHSAA is not dictating to the school district which schools are in and which schools are out.

 

2. Independent schools, like Bardstown, Mayfield, Somerset, already have their Independent district boundaries, and will be submitting the schools on that list. It doesn't really change anything for them.

 

3. The source confirmed that the KHSAA "should" honor contractual agreements between inter-county districts, for instance the contract that allows Bloomfield Middle School (Nelson Co. school system) students to attend Bardstown High School (and pay a tuition stipend), and Bardstown Middle School students to attend Nelson Co. High School. Seemingly, then, the KHSAA rule will NOT affect "open enrollment" or kids going from PUBLIC TO PUBLIC (the rule is not implicated).

 

4. The rule applies if you are in a public school seventh and eighth grade and then go to a private high school. The rule applies if you are in a private high school seventh and eighth grade and go to a public high school. If you go from private to private or public to public, to a school not on the list or under some sort of comity agreement, presumptively you have a Transfer Rule under Bylaw 6, and not under this rule, and you will be ineligible to play or practice for one year.

 

5. The rub, in my opinion lies with the fact that by honoring "open enrollment" in the public schools inter-county you allow some "crossover" that will NOT be available to the private schools. The private schools will be submitting their list, and no crossover will be permitted. I think this implicates equal protection of the law.

 

Anyway, it sure is interesting.

Hearsay, I have a few questions if you are able to answer them.

 

1. Is the 300 students for the whole district or is it boys 9-12?

 

2. What are they considering middle school 7-8 or 6-8?

 

3. Where schools that do not have a middle school mentioned?

 

4. Are the feeder programs only middle school programs or are they youth sports as well, as was originally considered?

BTW, Is Longbranch to be an new HS? If so where will it be located?

 

 

I was thinking the same thing.

Here is the way one insider has interpreted some of these questions for me:

 

 

5. The rub, in my opinion lies with the fact that by honoring "open enrollment" in the public schools inter-county you allow some "crossover" that will NOT be available to the private schools. The private schools will be submitting their list, and no crossover will be permitted. I think this implicates equal protection of the law.

 

Anyway, it sure is interesting.

 

 

How? For example, the whole Dio. of Louisville is one school system and Dio. of Covington is one school system. Any grade school in the dio. can feed any high school.

4. The rule applies if you are in a public school seventh and eighth grade and then go to a private high school. The rule applies if you are in a private high school seventh and eighth grade and go to a public high school. If you go from private to private or public to public, to a school not on the list or under some sort of comity agreement, presumptively you have a Transfer Rule under Bylaw 6, and not under this rule, and you will be ineligible to play or practice for one year.

 

So, for example: Greenup County has a transfer rule. Raceland (Independant), Russell (Independant), and Greenup Co.(Public, County) schools have an agreement that students can transfer without penalty nor tuition. Given this scenario Prop 2 does not apply to any of the aforementioned schools. Is this correct?

How? For example, the whole Dio. of Louisville is one school system and Dio. of Covington is one school system. Any grade school in the dio. can feed any high school.

 

My understanding is that this is not going to be permitted. I cannot tell you why. I just don't know.

Hearsay, I have a few questions if you are able to answer them.

 

1. Is the 300 students for the whole district or is it boys 9-12?

 

2. What are they considering middle school 7-8 or 6-8?

 

3. Where schools that do not have a middle school mentioned?

 

4. Are the feeder programs only middle school programs or are they youth sports as well, as was originally considered?

 

1. My understanding is that the 300 person is per high school, not per district. I think it is girls and boys, not one or the other. However, on that last part I am not 100% sure.

 

2. The rule really only deals with "changes" made after 7th, so whether or not it is a 6-8 middle school or 7-8 middle school, my understanding is that is not a factor.

 

3. Schools only. I don't believe non-school programs are taken into account, although there are other rules that deal with that.

How? For example, the whole Dio. of Louisville is one school system and Dio. of Covington is one school system. Any grade school in the dio. can feed any high school.

You are correct if you read the posting of the proposal on the KHSAA web site. If a student attends a 8th grade and below program anywhere in the diocese of Louisville for example, and there is not a diocese high school in their county, then they are at a "terminal" school. That let's them go to 1) the county or public school based on their residence, or 2) any diocese high school unless the diocese itself further restricts that.

So, for example: Greenup County has a transfer rule. Raceland (Independant), Russell (Independant), and Greenup Co.(Public, County) schools have an agreement that students can transfer without penalty nor tuition. Given this scenario Prop 2 does not apply to any of the aforementioned schools. Is this correct?

 

That is what I have been told, but the Transfer Rule, Bylaw 6, may very well apply.

Anyone want to take a guess at the number of lawsuits brought about because of this in the first year of implementation?

My understanding is that this is not going to be permitted. I cannot tell you why. I just don't know.

 

That would be kind of hard to believe since there are Catholic high schools that do not have any designated feeder schools.

 

If a student in a diocese of Covington grade school wants to attend a high school in the diocese of Covington and they are all under one superintendent do you really think not being eligible is going to fly?

 

So Kevin and Andy Listerman could have attended Covington Catholic where their dad was a teacher and coach but since they went to St. Mary grade school (in Campbell Co.) they could not play basketball?

I may have misspoken here; when we talk about the Archdiocese of Louisville, for example, if a child attends an ARCHDIOCESE middle school within the Archdiocesan boundaries, I think they still get to choose whether they want to go to Trinity, St. Xavier, Holy Cross, Desales, Assumption, Mercy, et. al. However, even though Bates Middle School (public), for example, is in the Archdiocesan physical boundaries, Bates students will not be able to go to Trinity without implicating Proposal 2.

I may have misspoken here; when we talk about the Archdiocese of Louisville, for example, if a child attends an ARCHDIOCESE middle school within the Archdiocesan boundaries, I think they still get to choose whether they want to go to Trinity, St. Xavier, Holy Cross, Desales, Assumption, Mercy, et. al. However, even though Bates Middle School (public), for example, is in the Archdiocesan physical boundaries, Bates students will not be able to go to Trinity without implicating Proposal 2.

 

That's why I questioned your statement that the rules would effect private schools more than public.