8 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Surprised by the Jonathan Allen score - unless penalties factor into the score.

They do.

16 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Surprised by the Jonathan Allen score - unless penalties factor into the score.

Right, I am not sure how this is all formulated.

32 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Surprised by the Jonathan Allen score - unless penalties factor into the score.

23 minutes ago, 16thBBall Fan said:

They do.

That explains it. Allen played well but he lined up offsides 3 times.

From Lance:

Cincinnati Bengals defensive grades/Week 1

Per Pro Football Focus:

86.5 Boye Maye

80.5 Barrett Carter

77.6 Dexter Lawrence

70.6 Jalen Davis

67.6 Cedric Johnson

66.1 Bryan Cook

66.0 Dax Hill

61.2 DJ Turner

57.2 Demetrius Knight Jr.

55.3 Cashius Howell

50.6 T.J. Slaton

48.5 Myles Murphy

39.6 Jonathan Allen

39.3 Jordan Battle

33.1 B.J. Hill

(minimum 19 snaps)

Missed tackles: 13

3 Carter

3 Knight Jr.

2 Lawrence

1 Mafe

1 Davis

1 Allen

1 Cook

1 Battle

9 minutes ago, theguru said:

Missed tackles: 13

3 Carter

3 Knight Jr.

2 Lawrence

1 Mafe

1 Davis

1 Allen

1 Cook

1 Battle

The missed tackles will need to be at least cut in half next week in Houston.

8 minutes ago, theguru said:

From Lance:

Cincinnati Bengals defensive grades/Week 1

Per Pro Football Focus:

86.5 Boye Maye

80.5 Barrett Carter

77.6 Dexter Lawrence

70.6 Jalen Davis

67.6 Cedric Johnson

66.1 Bryan Cook

66.0 Dax Hill

61.2 DJ Turner

57.2 Demetrius Knight Jr.

55.3 Cashius Howell

50.6 T.J. Slaton

48.5 Myles Murphy

39.6 Jonathan Allen

39.3 Jordan Battle

33.1 B.J. Hill

(minimum 19 snaps)

Missed tackles: 13

3 Carter

3 Knight Jr.

2 Lawrence

1 Mafe

1 Davis

1 Allen

1 Cook

1 Battle

Those LB missed tackles are a problem - but no one is surprised. Also bad angles taken by the LBers. Knight is playing his way out of the NFL.

From Lance:

Doing it with depth: On a scorching hot day, the Cincinnati Bengals played nine different defensive linemen on Sunday.

Eight of those players took between 33% and 65% of the 57 snaps.

Those eight played an average of 26.1 snaps. ....45.7% of snaps.

Nobody played more than 37 snaps.

Defensive ends:

Mafe 37 (65%)

Murphy 34 (60%)

Howell 25 (44%)

Johnson 19 (33%)

Defensive tackles:

Lawrence 35 (61%)

Allen 32 (56%)

Hill 24 (42%)

Slaton 21 (37%)

Jenkins 8 (14%)

Quality depth allows them to keep guys fresh and wear down an OL as the game goes on.

Compare that to some other DL around the NFL Sunday

Jalen Carter, Eagles, 66 of 70 snaps (94%)

Will Anderson, Texans, 51 of 58 snaps (88%)

Chase Young, Sants, 51 of 58 snaps (88%)

George Karlaftis, Chiefs, 44 of 51 snaps (86%)

Aidan Hutchinson, Lions, 79 of 90 snaps (83%)

Ed Oliver, Bills, 65 of 79 snaps (82%)

Greg Rousseau, Bills, 63 of 79 snaps (80%)

Bradley Chubb, Bills, 63 of 79 snaps (80%)

Danielle Hunter, Texans, 45 of 56 snaps (78%)

DJ Wonnum, Lions, 69 of 90 snaps (77%)

Quinnen Williams, Cowboys, 53 of 69 (77%)

Jeffrey Simmons, Titans, 50 of 67 snaps (75%)

I was listening to The Herd and didn't realize Collinsworth sold PFF. Additionally, The Herd, and apparently others, have been critical of the new PFF:

Cris Collinsworth sold the enterprise data and analytics business side of Pro Football Focus (PFF) to Teamworks in a nine-figure deal worth over $100 million.

Sale Details

• Buyer: Teamworks, an elite sports operating system and technology company.

• What was sold: PFF's B2B enterprise business, including game event data used by all 32 NFL teams and hundreds of college programs.

• What was kept: Collinsworth retained control of PFF's separate consumer-facing media arm, which includes podcasts, fantasy tools, and the public website.

• Aftermath: The transaction triggered major layoffs that gutted a large portion of PFF's content and analytics staff.

Further Exploration

• Read about the transaction directly on the Teamworks Official Announcement.

• Explore industry reporting on the aftermath from Front Office Sports.

• Review the media breakdown on Awful Announcing.

Would you like to know more about how this sale affects PFF grades on NBC broadcasts or the layoffs that impacted the content team?

• Front Office Sports

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Additionally, NBC has removed Pro Football Focus player grades from its Sunday Night Football broadcast graphics following player criticism and the company's sale. Additionally, the transaction and subsequent acquisition by Teamworks resulted in mass layoffs that heavily impacted PFF's editorial and content staff. For more details, visit Front Office Sports.

16 hours ago, theguru said:

Since about the middle of the year last year, the Bengals offensive line has quietly become a very good pass blocking team. With that said they will face their toughest test of the season this week, as Houston probably as the best defensive front in the NFL in regards to putting pressure on the QB.