Didn't Charlie Finley try that when he owned the A's? And orange baseballs? And silly nicknames?

I believe, you are correct...back in the 70's.

Our two fastest players were timed running 4.7's this weekend in a camp. We are a small school and that is fast for us. What are you guys seeing.

 

Tony Browning from mason county runs a 4.56 forty i think lead the team in steals last year

I'd guess that there are under 6 high school kids who actually can run in the 4.3's in this entire state. Times by the lovable quick fingered assistant coach tend to be horribly incorrect. I do love the intent, but let's be realistic. Look at 40 times at the NFL combine and see how many 4.3's are out there. BTW, every scouting sheet by every Div. I school I've seen records a player's 60yd time. The distance from home to 2B.

Didn't Charlie Finley try that when he owned the A's? And orange baseballs? And silly nicknames?

That would be Herb Washington.

If you make a good hit, obviously a 40 doesnt matter, plus isnt it 90 feet to first. Stealing a base requires a pretty quick sprinter and i'd say a time of around 4-5 seconds for a forty is pretty good, IMO.

 

Not neccisarily the fastested guy steals a base, if he doesn't have good techinque, unless you have blazing speed you arent going to steal a base.

A school needs to get their fastest track star & put him on the team just to run bases. I know that the 2 sports are in the same season but a kid can atleast play in a few baseball games right ? Miss a track meet here & there. Just go to home baseball games or when you don't have a track meet ? If the kid is that fast then he can afford to miss a practice or meet. He will still be "practicing" on the bases.

 

 

I dont exactly agree with this just because a kid is fast dosent give him the exception of playing when it is convient for him or the team what about all the other kids who practice everday and give there all to make the team. I could be wrong but i dont think baseball is a one man game nor does having one fast kid win you ballgames. I think if your going to play then you give 100% to the sport you choose maybe the kid plays baseball and just runs in a few track meets to help the team win. I would guess that neither coach would really enjoy having that contaversy on there team JMO .

Football combines often measure 10-yard dash times, and I expect that to be the most useful time for base-stealing.

 

For example, on Middlesbroro's team, the best base-stealer is Casey Earls, but Hoskins and Breeding were just as fast in the 40 (Earls 4.66, Breeding 4.67, Hoskins 4.69, Electronic) at last spring's football combines. Earls just has that quick jump that gets him to second (or third) before the throw.

 

BTW, I haven't seen a 40 time under 4.45 this year at the football combines for any player in the whole state, hand or electronic.

 

I really don't know why Baseball grades players on their 60 yard times. Does anyone know?

Football combines often measure 10-yard dash times, and I expect that to be the most useful time for base-stealing.

 

For example, on Middlesbroro's team, the best base-stealer is Casey Earls, but Hoskins and Breeding were just as fast in the 40 (Earls 4.66, Breeding 4.67, Hoskins 4.69, Electronic) at last spring's football combines. Earls just has that quick jump that gets him to second (or third) before the throw.

 

BTW, I haven't seen a 40 time under 4.45 this year at the football combines for any player in the whole state, hand or electronic.

 

I really don't know why Baseball grades players on their 60 yard times. Does anyone know?

Distance from Home to 2nd Base, which is a great speed measurement, for not only foot speed but cutting corner, rounding first and gap speed.

 

Comparison of 60 and Home/2nd, gives a coach an idea of how they can correct baserunning flaws.

Distance from Home to 2nd Base, which is a great speed measurement, for not only foot speed but cutting corner, rounding first and gap speed.

 

Comparison of 60 and Home/2nd, gives a coach an idea of how they can correct baserunning flaws.

 

I agree that the main point of the 60 for baseball is to measure the true speed of the player but the other things you mentioned, cutting corner, rounding first, and gap speed aren't figured in at all into the 60 yard dash. It is a dead straight run, they don't measure players at combines from home plate to second base.

 

I think the 60 simply gives a little time for a player to show off his accelaration. I think it is most applicable for outfielders.

I agree that the main point of the 60 for baseball is to measure the true speed of the player but the other things you mentioned, cutting corner, rounding first, and gap speed aren't figured in at all into the 60 yard dash. It is a dead straight run, they don't measure players at combines from home plate to second base.

 

I think the 60 simply gives a little time for a player to show off his accelaration. I think it is most applicable for outfielders.

 

I have been to showcases where they have had athletes to run from home to second. It's a great way to gauge a runners ability to make that turn to 2nd.

 

I'll agree that the straight 60 is to gauge the accelaration of that runner. Speed is a part of the game.

In my experience, 60's are most time efficient and if it is a well ran showcase then they usually won't take the time it would require to time every single player from home to second. I agree that it would be useful but definitely secondary.

In my experience, 60's are most time efficient and if it is a well ran showcase then they usually won't take the time it would require to time every single player from home to second. I agree that it would be useful but definitely secondary.

 

There are showcases that are strictly run for the money. Then there are those that want to see the athletes. One in particular, the staff stayed with the pitchers. It was a waste of time for the OF'ers and INF'ers. Very little was paid attention to hitting and feilding. They ran a straight 60. But, most scouts were there for the pitching. These guys should have just advertised it as a pitching showcase.

 

Others, that I have been to, paid attention to all the positions. Each one got it's time. And the 60 was ran straight and home to 2nd. If I'm a scout and I'm looking for a SS, then I want to see every aspect of his game.

Football combines often measure 10-yard dash times, and I expect that to be the most useful time for base-stealing.

 

For example, on Middlesbroro's team, the best base-stealer is Casey Earls, but Hoskins and Breeding were just as fast in the 40 (Earls 4.66, Breeding 4.67, Hoskins 4.69, Electronic) at last spring's football combines. Earls just has that quick jump that gets him to second (or third) before the throw.

 

BTW, I haven't seen a 40 time under 4.45 this year at the football combines for any player in the whole state, hand or electronic.

 

I really don't know why Baseball grades players on their 60 yard times. Does anyone know?

Is there a common generally accepted rule of thumb about the accuracy of hand held times vs. laser timed runs as in how much variance there is between the two methods?

In my experience, 60's are most time efficient and if it is a well ran showcase then they usually won't take the time it would require to time every single player from home to second. I agree that it would be useful but definitely secondary.

Understand your point, but like PD said, time from home to 2nd can vary and college coaches, appreciate the opportunity from Home to 2nd.

 

It doesn't take a significant amount of time, to perform the extra running and smaller showcases or larger, should incorporate into their camps.

 

When I oversee Showcases, this time is included. I also include, Home to 1st times, especially for position players.

I'd guess that there are under 6 high school kids who actually can run in the 4.3's in this entire state. Times by the lovable quick fingered assistant coach tend to be horribly incorrect. I do love the intent, but let's be realistic. Look at 40 times at the NFL combine and see how many 4.3's are out there. BTW, every scouting sheet by every Div. I school I've seen records a player's 60yd time. The distance from home to 2B.

:thumb: Very true.