Introducing the new "unorganized religion"

[acemona]

Any christian denomination that does not talk more about the grace, mercy and love of JC than it does about condemning those who sin should be banned.

 

How would you feel if my Christianity was the one that was being held up as the right way to live?

 

I don't want the 10 Commandments posted in schools, I want the Beatitudes -

1. Blessed are the POOR

2. Blessed are those who mourn

3. Blessed are the MEEK

4. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness

5. Blessed are the MERCIFUL

6. Blessed are the pure in heart

7. Blessed are the PEACEMAKERS

8. Bleseed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness

 

I also want what JC called the Greatest Commandments posted in the schools:

Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the prophets hang on these two commandments

 

All children must also memorize Matthew 7: 1-6 before they are allowed to graduate. Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and the you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

 

Everybody must forgive someone 7x70 before they sue or take action against them.

 

Every 50th year (The year of Jubilee) all debts that are owed must be forgiven .

 

Anyone earning over 150,000.00 a year must recite Matthew 19:16--30

 

Any taxpayer who complains about their money going to welfare recipients that do not deserve it must memorize and recite daily Matthew 25: 31-46

[Hatz]

Any christian denomination that does not talk more about the grace, mercy and love of JC than it does about condemning those who sin should be banned.

 

How would you feel if my Christianity was the one that was being held up as the right way to live?

 

I don't want the 10 Commandments posted in schools, I want the Beatitudes -

1. Blessed are the POOR

2. Blessed are those who mourn

3. Blessed are the MEEK

4. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness

5. Blessed are the MERCIFUL

6. Blessed are the pure in heart

7. Blessed are the PEACEMAKERS

8. Bleseed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness

 

I also want what JC called the Greatest Commandments posted in the schools:

Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the prophets hang on these two commandments

 

All children must also memorize Matthew 7: 1-6 before they are allowed to graduate. Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and the you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

 

Everybody must forgive someone 7x70 before they sue or take action against them.

 

Every 50th year (The year of Jubilee) all debts that are owed must be forgiven .

 

Anyone earning over 150,000.00 a year must recite Matthew 19:16--30

 

Any taxpayer who complains about their money going to welfare recipients that do not deserve it must memorize and recite daily Matthew 25: 31-46

 

 

I like that one a lot and bring it up in conversation everytime someone tells me that the Bible needs to be the rule of practice for our government. I usually get a blank look.

[ladiesbballcoach]

I agree that all of what you mention above is key aspects of Christianity.

 

If you believe in the Bible so is judgement and eternal punishment if you are not a follower of Jesus Christ.

 

Yes, you are absolutely RIGHT that we must teach much of what you have above. But you have to teach the FULL PICTURE to. It is NOT my prerogative to change the message that Christ brought in his teachings. And those teachings include BOTH.

[ladiesbballcoach]

I like that one a lot and bring it up in conversation everytime someone tells me that the Bible needs to be the rule of practice for our government. I usually get a blank look.

What if the person is not a Christian, do I get relief from that debt, too?

[Hatz]

What if the person is not a Christian, do I get relief from that debt, too?

 

 

Are you saying you aren't a Christian LBC?

 

Actually Leviticus 25:8ff deals with the law from God about Jubilee. It specifically refers to "all inhabitants" and that included "aliens." In fact the notion behind God's law here is that we are all just "aliens" and sojourners on God's property. Check it out sometime. :thumb:

[ladiesbballcoach]

Are you saying you aren't a Christian LBC?

 

Actually Leviticus 25:8ff deals with the law from God about Jubilee. It specifically refers to "all inhabitants" and that included "aliens." In fact the notion behind God's law here is that we are all just "aliens" and sojourners on God's property. Check it out sometime. :thumb:

Let's say I owe money to a non-Christian, would I get debt relief? would I be expected to give debt relief to non-Christians?

 

I would expect the answers would be no and yes.

[Alabama Larry]

Of the Ten Commandments... Nine of them are mentioned by Jesus.

[ladiesbballcoach]

Of the Ten Commandments... Nine of them are mentioned by Jesus.

Well.......which one was not?

[acemona]

Of the Ten Commandments... Nine of them are mentioned by Jesus.

 

Yes they were, and he said that they were to be used to point someone to the Creator. They were not meant as a litmus test for a just life, and those that broke them were not meant to be condemned by the community.

 

Ladies,

 

Which is healthier:

 

"Repent and follow Jesus or you will end up in Hell"

 

or

 

"Man, I have this awesome relationship with JC and he will accept you right where you are and love you warts and all"

 

Salvation is NOT Fire Insurance it is a relationship and should NEVER be entered into out of fear.

[ladiesbballcoach]

Yes they were, and he said that they were to be used to point someone to the Creator. They were not meant as a litmus test for a just life, and those that broke them were not meant to be condemned by the community.

 

Ladies,

 

Which is healthier:

 

"Repent and follow Jesus or you will end up in Hell"

 

or

 

"Man, I have this awesome relationship with JC and he will accept you right where you are and love you warts and all"

 

Salvation is NOT Fire Insurance it is a relationship and should NEVER be entered into out of fear.

I agree. And at the same time, I do not have the authority to edit the message that Christ left. I will teach on the awesome relationship but I will also teach on the goats/sheep that Jesus taught on.

 

You might feel that you have that authority to edit his message and that is your call, but I do not have that authority.

[Hatz]

Let's say I owe money to a non-Christian, would I get debt relief? would I be expected to give debt relief to non-Christians?

 

I would expect the answers would be no and yes.

 

 

I think the point is what Leviticus says. Leviticus' Law was for all the inhabitants, Jew or not. If we make the Bible's law the law of our land, then Jubilee applies to all whether of the Christian faith or not because it is the law of the land.

 

So the answer is yes you would get debt relief from non-Christians and give it to non-Christians as well.

 

The law doesn't say it has to be a faithful Jew (Christian in your question) just an inhabitant.

 

Read it for yourself. :thumb:

[ladiesbballcoach]

I think the point is what Leviticus says. Leviticus' Law was for all the inhabitants, Jew or not. If we make the Bible's law the law of our land, then Jubilee applies to all whether of the Christian faith or not because it is the law of the land.

 

So the answer is yes you would get debt relief from non-Christians and give it to non-Christians as well.

 

The law doesn't say it has to be a faithful Jew (Christian in your question) just an inhabitant.

 

Read it for yourself. :thumb:

Actually our preacher did a sermon on the year of jubilee and it was very informative.

[acemona]

I agree. And at the same time, I do not have the authority to edit the message that Christ left. I will teach on the awesome relationship but I will also teach on the goats/sheep that Jesus taught on.

 

You might feel that you have that authority to edit his message and that is your call, but I do not have that authority.

 

So then, If I believe that JC will act as the hound of heaven and will forgive infinitely, AS HE TOLD PETER to do, then I am editing God's message?

 

Am I editing his message when I choose NOT to point out someone else's sin b/c JC tells me not to in him messages on judgment and casting the first stone.

 

I might be like Paul and try to hold my christian brothers accountable - if they have asked, but according to the message I read, it is not my job to point out the sin of others. A loving rebuke is different than a condemning threat.

 

Lets take the Celebrity Elton John for example. I don't know him from Adam so it would not be beneficial (spiritually) for me to tell him from a pulpit or anywhere that he is going to hell as a result of him homosexuality. I don't even see JC or Paul or Mark or John or anyone saying that in the Bible. If I had a relationship with him however, I could talk about the wonderfullness of JC and God and then let the HOLY SPIRIT convict - according the word I read, it is the HOLY SPIRIT that convicts not any person.

 

Is all this editing, or is it simply how I read the scripture through JC and what the Holy Spirit has revealed it to me?

[Incognito]

I agree. And at the same time, I do not have the authority to edit the message that Christ left. I will teach on the awesome relationship but I will also teach on the goats/sheep that Jesus taught on.

 

You might feel that you have that authority to edit his message and that is your call, but I do not have that authority.

 

 

All Bibles are edited versions. You are teaching from an edited version. To put a message into a language one can understand is acceptable to me. To "add or take away" isn't.

[ladiesbballcoach]

All Bibles are edited versions. You are teaching from an edited version. To put a message into a language one can understand is acceptable to me. To "add or take away" isn't.

That is the point I was trying to make but you said it better than me. You have to teach the complete message.