November 14, 200619 yr BTW, would not a stern "look at me, son, when I'm talking to you!" have worked for ol' Bob?
November 14, 200619 yr Are we OK with "old school" professors slapping students? Apples and oranges. I got my knuckles slapped with the ruler, got my ear pulled, etc. and I didn't even go to Catholic school. That was in the classroom; lessons learned (it only happened a couple of times before I caught on that I was supposed to be paying attention. I also wrestled in high school, and many was the time that I got my ears cuffed by the coach when trying to make a point. I grew up with the mindset that basketball was for sissies (my dad was also a wrestling coach, as well as a football coach); this is the sort of thing that confirms that theroy. And just when I thought that basketball was on its way to becoming a man's sport...
November 14, 200619 yr As a public school teacher who went to a public school and had his fanny paddled a few times, I have no doubt in my mind that when the paddle advertisement hanging on the wall behind the teacher's desk, there was a measure of respect and discipline that left the classroom. And I fear at this point that it cannot be gotten back. :thumb: I had my fanny paddled a few times in school, and I did not dare to go home and tell my Dad because he would give me another one. I would have let my son or daughter play for the General and still would.
November 14, 200619 yr Apples and oranges. I got my knuckles slapped with the ruler, got my ear pulled, etc. and I didn't even go to Catholic school. That was in the classroom; lessons learned (it only happened a couple of times before I caught on that I was supposed to be paying attention. I also wrestled in high school, and many was the time that I got my ears cuffed by the coach when trying to make a point. I grew up with the mindset that basketball was for sissies (my dad was also a wrestling coach, as well as a football coach); this is the sort of thing that confirms that theroy. And just when I thought that basketball was on its way to becoming a man's sport... We're not talking about kids. We're talking about young adults. You're telling me that you're OK with an authority figure (coach, teacher, police officer, minister) slapping your 18 year old daughter?
November 14, 200619 yr :thumb: I had my fanny paddled a few times in school, and I did not dare to go home and tell my Dad because he would give me another one. I would have let my son or daughter play for the General and still would. I'll ask you the same question: You're OK with an authority figure (coach/professor/minister/police officer) slapping your 18 year old daughter to "get her attention?"
November 14, 200619 yr What we all seem to be missing is that Bobby once again showed that he was about to lose it with a kid over something as innocent as a kid looking down at the ground. Most rational adults would tell the kid in no uncertain terms to look them in the eye. The fact that Bobby resorted to a slap tells me that he is still unstable. That should be the concern.
November 14, 200619 yr Haven't seen the video, anyone with a link.... I have read the versions and even Knights. His do it my way style, rubs some the wrong way and rightfully so at times. I'll reserve my opinion, until I can see a video. By the way, isn't he a few wins away from the record?
November 14, 200619 yr Anybody touches my face/head, its on like donkey kong, I cant stand to have someone slap me on the back of the head for flick my ear, I go into a mad rage, lose control, If Knight did that to me I would have gone to jail for breaking his hip
November 14, 200619 yr Anybody touches my face/head, its on like donkey kong, I cant stand to have someone slap me on the back of the head for flick my ear, I go into a mad rage, lose control, If Knight did that to me I would have gone to jail for breaking his hipDid he slap him or hit the player on the back of his head?
November 14, 200619 yr Haven't seen the video, anyone with a link.... I have read the versions and even Knights. His do it my way style, rubs some the wrong way and rightfully so at times. I'll reserve my opinion, until I can see a video. By the way, isn't he a few wins away from the record? Look in the ESPN Motion box on ESPN.com .
November 14, 200619 yr Did he slap him or hit the player on the back of his head? It was a forceful pop to the bottom of his chin, easily enough to cause him to bite his tounge pretty good, no one and i mean NO ONE strikes my head with any force without a knuckle sandwich in return:fight:
November 14, 200619 yr Look in the ESPN Motion box on ESPN.com .Thanks my friend....:thumb: He took his hand, struck the player under/near his chin to get him to look at him while being talked too....should have been handled in another way but the player said the following..."It was nothing," Prince told the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal after Monday night's game. "He was trying to teach me and I had my head down, so he raised my chin up. He was telling me to go out there and don't be afraid to make mistakes. He said I was being too hard on myself. Coaching will bring out the best and worst in a person. Knight used a more aggressive method than some or most but it doesn't cause me great alarm. Being cussed at, downgraded, lectured, criticized or benched happens in college athletics and Knights tactics, may be stronger than most but if the player in question, along with his parents are okay....than non-issue for me. It was a forceful pop to the bottom of his chin, easily enough to cause him to bite his tongue pretty good, no one and i mean NO ONE strikes my head with any force without a knuckle sandwich in return:fight:Have you ever or do you, play intercollegiate athletics....things happen during playing and coaching, that everyone wishes they could take back. Just like being a fan and yelling/cursing an official from the stands. Not the best behavior and embarrassing, but also tempers can cause a person to over react.
November 14, 200619 yr Thanks my friend....:thumb: He took his hand, struck the player under/near his chin to get him to look at him while being talked too....should have been handled in another way but the player said the following..."It was nothing," Prince told the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal after Monday night's game. "He was trying to teach me and I had my head down, so he raised my chin up. He was telling me to go out there and don't be afraid to make mistakes. He said I was being too hard on myself. Coaching will bring out the best and worst in a person. Knight used a more aggressive method than some or most but it doesn't cause me great alarm. Being cussed at, downgraded, lectured, criticized or benched happens in college athletics and Knights tactics, may be stronger than most but if the player in question, along with his parents are okay....than non-issue for me. Have you ever or do you, play intercollegiate athletics....things happen during playing and coaching, that everyone wishes they could take back. Just like being a fan and yelling/cursing an official from the stands. Not the best behavior and embarrassing, but also tempers can cause a person to over react. 1. Why is this OK in athletics but not in the college classroom? Pulled over for a speeding ticket? Meeting with your minister? 2. What else is the player going to say assuming he actually wants to have a career at TT?
November 14, 200619 yr 1. Why is this OK in athletics but not in the college classroom? Pulled over for a speeding ticket? Meeting with your minister? 2. What else is the player going to say assuming he actually wants to have a career at TT? I didn't say it was okay, shouldn't be tolerated or condoned but college/professional coaches are their to motivate, make you overachieve, instruct, teach and improve a player....Knight does it in a differing manner than some but there have been times, I would rather have been nudged under the chin, than to be called some of the "verbal" names I was, during my sports career. As for your other comparisons, think of a head coach as an employer and the player is an "at will employee"....coaches make points continually, with gestures and language. Officers and Ministers are there to mandate compliance and coaches, often demand it....part of the difference.
November 15, 200619 yr Was Coach Knight wrong with the hit to the chin of his player. The kid says there was nothing wrong with it, and the Coach feels the same way.
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