Those are the only two candidates in our minds.

I agree. I bet Tua still wins though.

Tua still gets my vote.

 

Same, I’d entertain arguments for Murray, but I still think it’s Tua.

Same, I’d entertain arguments for Murray, but I still think it’s Tua.

 

You’re saying Haskins isn’t a legit candidate?

Murray

You’re saying Haskins isn’t a legit candidate?

 

He's 3rd on my list sooo yes?

Same, I’d entertain arguments for Murray, but I still think it’s Tua.

Why?

He's 3rd on my list sooo yes?

 

I didn’t see your list maybe I overlooked it. You said Tua is your pick but you would throw Murray some points. Neither are really even close to 5,000 yard passing and 50 TD’s. Different criteria on BGP for finalist though.

I didn’t see your list maybe I overlooked it. You said Tua is your pick but you would throw Murray some points. Neither are really even close to 5,000 yard passing and 50 TD’s. Different criteria on BGP for finalist though.

 

 

OK... Gardner Minshew is going to be close to 5,000 should he be ahead of Tua and Murray?

Why?

 

I think Tua and Murray are better.

OK... Gardner Minshew is going to be close to 5,000 should he be ahead of Tua and Murray?

 

Yes, he should be in there. Is it a popularity contest or a statistical contest?

I think Tua and Murray are better.

I’m not talking about including Haskins I’m talking about why Tua over Murray? That just makes zero sense to me.

Yes, he should be in there. Is it a popularity contest or a statistical contest?

 

"In there" sure, but he's not winning. I'd say a mixture of both.

I’m not talking about including Haskins I’m talking about why Tua over Murray? That just makes zero sense to me.

 

It's not just a stats contest to me and for that reason I pick Tua. I can only imagine what Tua would have done against the Big 12. Actually probably less, he might have been sitting out the 3rd and 4th Q of games.

It's not just a stats contest to me and for that reason I pick Tua. I can only imagine what Tua would have done against the Big 12. Actually probably less, he might have been sitting out the 3rd and 4th Q of games.

 

Hurts just showed us that Bama goes 13-0 with him. It should go off stats and what the team would be like without the player.

It's not just a stats contest to me and for that reason I pick Tua. I can only imagine what Tua would have done against the Big 12. Actually probably less, he might have been sitting out the 3rd and 4th Q of games.

You must not have actually watched Kyler play. It’s fine. Eye test is similar, stats are in Kylers favor.