Mike Minnix didn't play 40 years ago....it was more like the 80's

 

Minnix played in the 60's

I usually don't get involved in the quibbles on here about our "unproductive :lol: and too-predictable;) " offense, but one slight correction...

 

The two "big plays" in the 4th quarter that actually stretched the lead and one VERY good drive we had in the 3rd in the driving rain were BOTH from our shotgun set.

 

Above all, an offense in football today needs to be FLEXIBLE and able to adapt to differing conditions, strengths of opponents, or injuries to key players. Thus, we have a way to go Full-House Power both under center (better for bad field conditions and in the red zone) and a way to go Full-House Power in the gun (allows for more passing flexibility and misdirection); in addition, we can also run a complete SPREAD offense if needed (vs. stronger run defenses, end of halves, etc.).

 

So, with WET and/or MUDDY field conditions, one consideration as to whether you're in gun or under center has less to do with what can get the most YARDS than it does how you can most easily get the BALL in play (we'd MUCH rather have been under center the way it was working with the wet field, but once the rain became a DRIVING rain at the start of the 3rd quarter, we had three straight errant under-the-center snaps).

 

Here's why: a snap to a qb under the center actually slides the ball THROUGH the mud some...a shotgun snap is more of a "lift-off-the-ground" action so the ball is less sloppy. Combine a WET BALL (driving rain) with MORE MUD and just getting the ball IN PLAY becomes the most important consideration. (We had a pretty good, time-consuming, yardage producing drive late in the 3rd quarter out of shotgun, and as I mentioned, the 2-play "drive" in the 4th quarter was completely out of shotgun).

 

When the rain subsided in the 4th, we went back UNDER CENTER and Harmon reeled off his last long run.

 

The offense we run may "look" simplistic or predictable, but trust me, EVERYTHING we do play-calling wise, whether we're under center or not, what personnel we have in, and what we do with motion is by DESIGN and VERY thought out ahead of time...often, with consideration given to the same things military generals consider in battle (there is a VERY good read for football coaches called "The Art of War" that has nice parallels between football and war strategy in terms of terrain, enemy positioning, etc.).

 

And as far as punting from their 30...with the field conditions what they were considering the TYPE of offense they were able to run (ball control running basically), the way our defense had been playing to that point, and the fact that it was 4th and TEN to go, to back them up and make them have to get even TWO more first downs than if we'd turned it over on downs right there made a LOT more sense. (Now, had we been able to predict that we'd miss the snap and actually LOSE more yards, no, we wouldn't have done it...but if we could predict things like that, EVERYTHING would be better for us!

 

Thanks for the clarification(s), CoachJ. BTW, some buddies of mine from Jenkins are saying the Panthers' season is over this Friday.:fight: :flame:

Minnix played in the 60's

Your right. After further research, Mike Minix scored 252 points in 1960.

I was thinking of a younger Mike Minix who played in the 80's...tremendous baseballer.

Your right. After further research, Mike Minix scored 252 points in 1960.

I was thinking of a younger Mike Minix who played in the 80's...tremendous baseballer.

 

:thumb:

The outcome of this game was never in doubt, although I honestly believe Pikeville's coach tries to make certain games close. How else can you explain punting from Paintsville's 30 in the third quarter, lol...Also, Pikeville went away from their offense that shredded the Paintsville D in the third quarter, then got back in it and put the game away. Also, Ted Honaker was kept out of this game to let a nagging injury heal. Something else Pikeville did was win the toss to start the game, defer, and give up yet anothert KO return for a TD...

 

Anyways, some stats ---

Daniel Pugh - negative 24 yards rushing, 49 yards passing.:eek:

2 TD's - one on a QB sneak and one on an 85-yd KO return for a TD...

Paintsville as a team had 34 rushing yards and 49 passing yards for 83 total yards against Pikeville's D.

 

Daniel Harmon had 20 carries for 177 yards a 2 TD's.

Pikeville had around 250 yards of offense.

 

I was impressed with the running of Sublett (or was it Cantrell???) for Paintsville.

Paintsville looked like a better team than Hazard, and should have a good shot in their rematch...

 

I honestly believe Pikeville coaching staff left plenty in the tank for a possible rematch in the second round.

 

It was anyone's game going into the 4th. 20-12 it was hardly over.

Some of Pugh's "rushing attempts" wwas him simply diving on the ball after a bad snap, so thats why he had such low numbers. I thought Paintsville won the toss? Maybe Coach J can clear that up, but either way, it was stupid to kick the ball to Pugh, but I'm glad they did. Sublett is #34 and Cantrell is #24. ALso, I seriously doubt that Coach J, "tried" to keep the game close, but they did a good job of making the adjustments needed to win the game. Hopefully, we get another shot at them.

Your right. After further research, Mike Minix scored 252 points in 1960.

I was thinking of a younger Mike Minix who played in the 80's...tremendous baseballer.

 

That's true, but it's the wrong record.

 

Once again, Daniel Pugh now holds the record for career touchdowns scored at Paintsville High School.

 

Congratulations Daniel... :ylsuper:

Paintsville did not make a first down after halftime. Hope to see them again in the second round.

I usually don't get involved in the quibbles on here about our "unproductive :lol: and too-predictable;) " offense, but one slight correction...

 

The two "big plays" in the 4th quarter that actually stretched the lead and one VERY good drive we had in the 3rd in the driving rain were BOTH from our shotgun set.

 

Above all, an offense in football today needs to be FLEXIBLE and able to adapt to differing conditions, strengths of opponents, or injuries to key players. Thus, we have a way to go Full-House Power both under center (better for bad field conditions and in the red zone) and a way to go Full-House Power in the gun (allows for more passing flexibility and misdirection); in addition, we can also run a complete SPREAD offense if needed (vs. stronger run defenses, end of halves, etc.).

 

So, with WET and/or MUDDY field conditions, one consideration as to whether you're in gun or under center has less to do with what can get the most YARDS than it does how you can most easily get the BALL in play (we'd MUCH rather have been under center the way it was working with the wet field, but once the rain became a DRIVING rain at the start of the 3rd quarter, we had three straight errant under-the-center snaps).

 

Here's why: a snap to a qb under the center actually slides the ball THROUGH the mud some...a shotgun snap is more of a "lift-off-the-ground" action so the ball is less sloppy. Combine a WET BALL (driving rain) with MORE MUD and just getting the ball IN PLAY becomes the most important consideration. (We had a pretty good, time-consuming, yardage producing drive late in the 3rd quarter out of shotgun, and as I mentioned, the 2-play "drive" in the 4th quarter was completely out of shotgun).

 

When the rain subsided in the 4th, we went back UNDER CENTER and Harmon reeled off his last long run.

 

The offense we run may "look" simplistic or predictable, but trust me, EVERYTHING we do play-calling wise, whether we're under center or not, what personnel we have in, and what we do with motion is by DESIGN and VERY thought out ahead of time...often, with consideration given to the same things military generals consider in battle (there is a VERY good read for football coaches called "The Art of War" that has nice parallels between football and war strategy in terms of terrain, enemy positioning, etc.).

 

And as far as punting from their 30...with the field conditions what they were considering the TYPE of offense they were able to run (ball control running basically), the way our defense had been playing to that point, and the fact that it was 4th and TEN to go, to back them up and make them have to get even TWO more first downs than if we'd turned it over on downs right there made a LOT more sense. (Now, had we been able to predict that we'd miss the snap and actually LOSE more yards, no, we wouldn't have done it...but if we could predict things like that, EVERYTHING would be better for us!

Sun Tzu would be proud of your effort;)

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Brief note here that deserves mention...

 

Daniel Pugh broke the all-time TD scoring record for Paintsville last night. He scored 106...

 

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For accuracy sake, the record setting mark is 105.

Sun Tzu would be proud of your effort;)

 

I'll bet KNUTE knew Sun Tzu inside and out!

 

I think he won a game against Army one time with his famous "win one for the Tzu-per" halftime speech. (Didn't get NEARLY as much publicity as the "Gipper" one, but a dandy one nonetheless!)

I'll bet KNUTE knew Sun Tzu inside and out!

 

I think he won a game against Army one time with his famous "win one for the Tzu-per" halftime speech. (Didn't get NEARLY as much publicity as the "Gipper" one, but a dandy one nonetheless!)

 

Not as good as the Gipper speech, and here are some other quotes I found....." No need for chop sticks if you have a fork"- " I said like the wind , not break it" and my favorite " Fire stick reach farther than Samari sword"