February 26, 20179 yr I'm asking what has been proven to be false. Well there have been many of those posted as examples in this thread. But on this story specifically you are taking the approach that Trump should have to prove he didn't pee on women in Russia ? Seems like a crazy precedent.
February 26, 20179 yr Here is the problem. It is all "he said, she said" stories. If you say, "this was disproved by the White House." You get the response of, "Spicer and the White House are a bunch of liars." This President is Guilty until proven innocent. I am sure Obama faced some of this too, but at least he was given the benefit of the doubt at the beginning of his presidency.
February 26, 20179 yr Came across this, if you guys would like to look through it. I'll be honest, I only briefly glanced at these. SHOCK LIST: Last Week The National Media Spread THIS MUCH Fake News LIST: 24 Pieces of MSM Fake News in 5 Days Fake News Rap Sheet: Last Week the MSM Was Caught Telling FORTY Lies Fake News Rap Sheet: Last Week the MSM Told THIRTY-SEVEN Lies
February 27, 20179 yr Author 16 Fake News Stories Reporters Have Run Since Trump Won I looked through all of these. These stories point out two big problems with today's media: 1. Unreliable internet websites are relied on and there is a rush to publish news without verifying information. 2. Headline writers - these are the worst people in media. Their goal is to get web hits and they will seek and twist a story with most "SHOCKING" language to try and get web hits. Would I call those stories fake? No. There was some truth in them. But there were errors in most of them and headline writers angling the stories for hits. These aren't Trump issues. These are problems with today's internet media. Fake - no. A problem with today's media - yes.
February 27, 20179 yr Author Forbes Welcome I'll bite. Good story. It points out some of the very comments and problems I posted above. Headline writers are a problem. Rush to publish is a problem. In the story linked, the Washington Post moved quickly to correct errors. After reading these two examples above, perhaps we should clarify what "Fake News" is. If we find a mistake in a headline, is that "Fake News"? I am taking "Fake News" to mean the media is deliberately making stories up - you know lying. Is "Fake News" intentional lying or is it stories with errors or misleading headlines?
February 27, 20179 yr Good story. It points out some of the very comments and problems I posted above. Headline writers are a problem. Rush to publish is a problem. In the story linked, the Washington Post moved quickly to correct errors. After reading these two examples above, perhaps we should clarify what "Fake News" is. If we find a mistake in a headline, is that "Fake News"? I am taking "Fake News" to mean the media is deliberately making stories up - you know lying. Is "Fake News" intentional lying or is it stories with errors or misleading headlines? If you read the article, then you should know that the Washington Post did not move quickly to correct what was a fake story. One stand alone laptop infected with a virus is not the equivalent of our nation's electrical grid being hacked by the Russians. The corrections to the story were too little, too late, and the original story was almost completely false, with a misleading headline to boot. The intent was to deceive and the goal was met.
February 27, 20179 yr Good story. It points out some of the very comments and problems I posted above. Headline writers are a problem. Rush to publish is a problem. In the story linked, the Washington Post moved quickly to correct errors. After reading these two examples above, perhaps we should clarify what "Fake News" is. If we find a mistake in a headline, is that "Fake News"? I am taking "Fake News" to mean the media is deliberately making stories up - you know lying. Is "Fake News" intentional lying or is it stories with errors or misleading headlines? I'm taking it as there is such a strong media bias that reporters rush to judgement because they want a story to be true. They publish a story without going through proper protocol because they want a designed result. It is this agenda that has become to common. It is fake news because they want something to be true even when it isn't.
February 27, 20179 yr Author Came across this, if you guys would like to look through it. I'll be honest, I only briefly glanced at these. SHOCK LIST: Last Week The National Media Spread THIS MUCH Fake News LIST: 24 Pieces of MSM Fake News in 5 Days Fake News Rap Sheet: Last Week the MSM Was Caught Telling FORTY Lies Fake News Rap Sheet: Last Week the MSM Told THIRTY-SEVEN Lies Sorry, I haven't been able to make it through all these. I only looked at the first link from The Daily Wire. But that link poses a really interesting twist for this thread. This is posted to support that fake news is being spread by the main stream media. Yet, when I looked at the stories used in the link, I believe the items posted by The Daily Wire are fake news. I will use one example that is irrefutable - Trump's inauguration day crowd size. The Daily Wire slyly tries to make it out that the media story that Trump's crowd was smaller is a lie by claiming a picture used has been debunked. Yet their proof that it is debunked is some tweets by right wingers questioning the picture. Is there anyone outside of Trump's inner circle who are beholden to him that believes Trump's crowd was larger than Obama's? Is this story by The Daily Wire fake news? It looks to me like this link used to try and show fake news by the main stream media is actually filled with fake news from The Daily Wire - and much more intentionally fake news than the other items posted above.
February 27, 20179 yr Good story. It points out some of the very comments and problems I posted above. Headline writers are a problem. Rush to publish is a problem. In the story linked, the Washington Post moved quickly to correct errors. After reading these two examples above, perhaps we should clarify what "Fake News" is. If we find a mistake in a headline, is that "Fake News"? I am taking "Fake News" to mean the media is deliberately making stories up - you know lying. Is "Fake News" intentional lying or is it stories with errors or misleading headlines? It is both. This is the problem with the mainstream media. They will write a story without properly vetting or confirming the validity. They will put a headline that makes it sound worse and then wait until somebody disproves the story. Meanwhile, the story is being shared on Twitter, Facebook and other means to hundreds of thousands or even millions of people. Then the media adds a small retraction or update that makes the story valid. The problem is the damage is already done. The media knows exactly what they are doing. They have the "as long as we correct it at some point" mentality, when most Americans will read the original, believe it and then never even read the retraction for one of two reasons. Reason 1: Why would you read the same article again? Reason 2: The person that shared the original story on social media is not going to reshare the retraction or update that doesn't fit the narrative.
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