So what national tragedies/events do you believe were these "False flags" you speak of?

 

There have to be some concrete events you think were concocted by our government to feel so strongly about this.

 

Here's the most pressing at the moment:

 

Bolton suggests Russian election hacks were ‘false flag’ by Obama administration - The Washington Post

“We would want to know who else might want to influence the election and why they would leave fingerprints that point to the Russians. That’s why I say, until we know more about how the intelligence community came to this conclusion, we don’t know whether it’s Russian inspired or a false flag.”

None/zero, of these theories can be supported from start to finish. Yes you can make video showing someone at the scene of Sandy Hook and compare their pic to an actor that looks like them, claim it is them and thing was hoax. But in none of those videos does it prove absolutely that the parent or agent in question is the actor they show. Also, I've seen a couple of them trying to show how parents of victims were actor. If they were really actors and didn't truly have child that was killed, wouldn't someone at the school or in the community know that?

 

Maybe the town got a good dose of chemtrails before the false flag event, turning everyone into blank canvases for the newly concocted government story.

 

Information For Chemtrail Skeptics >> Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Maybe the town got a good dose of chemtrails before the false flag event, turning everyone into blank canvases for the newly concocted government story.

 

Information For Chemtrail Skeptics >> Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Man, I bet your right. #nolongerasheep

Here's a riddle: If the government had such massive capability to seamlessly stage large-scale events and brainwash entire populations for the purpose of manipulating public opinion, then what would they want public opinion for in the first place? Why not cut out the middle man?

To my above post, I would add the following:

 

2001 - Anthrax or Amerithrax (I believe I referenced this is another thread last week)

 

...but most famously, I would suggest looking at the Iraq War and why the US initially said they got involved....

 

Don't be sheep...the government is not our friend.

Here's a riddle: If the government had such massive capability to seamlessly stage large-scale events and brainwash entire populations for the purpose of manipulating public opinion, then what would they want public opinion for in the first place? Why not cut out the middle man?

 

Public Opinion is how dollars are derived from ideas...if you don't keep the fire stoked, you can't run out your initiatives. Ultimately some factions of government do not want to have any dissent in the position, but rather feed the masses the information they want them to grow out of.

 

Do you not believe, just through the last election cycle, that the information being fed to the masses was pure and true, or manipulated for an intended outcome ?

 

(Let's remember, Mr. Trump had no chance to win this election for months and month up to election night....)

 

Don't be sheep...the government is not our friend.

 

Along those same lines, the government is not our enemy either. To think that they are makes one just as much a sheep as others.

Along those same lines, the government is not our enemy either. To think that they are makes one just as much a sheep as others.

 

Never said they were our enemy, and never intended to imply that. They are an entity that the US citizen needs to be acutely aware of and pay a healthy level of attention to, globally.

 

Not being a friend, does not make one an enemy....

“We need more money,” says the sinister figure at the head of the long oak table.

 

A mysterious voice responds. “Why don’t we just take it?”

 

The sinister figure, whose face is hidden by shadows, is indignant. “That would be too easy!”

 

“Then what do we do?”

 

“It’s time for Operation FF-27.”

 

“You don’t mean…” The mysterious voice trails off.

 

“Yes. Hire the actors. Call FEMA. Fuel the jets with chemicals. We are going to stage a live event and scare these sheep into giving us their money!”

 

Cackles of laughter are heard coming from the shadows of the large catacomb.

 

A lone voice peeps out “Why would they give us their money?”

 

“DON’T ASK QUESTIONS!”

 

The lone voice has emboldened others.

 

“What if internet sleuths figure it out? What if we don’t get the money?!”

 

The sinister figure stands and pushes back his hood. His face is scarred and disfigured.

 

“That’s the price we have to pay. We have to use our omniscient power to stage carefully crafted ruses that usually never work.”

 

The room bursts into an ominous chant in a language indescribable.

 

…

 

The next week the government murders 20-children in Sandy Hook in a carefully scripted plot to enrage the powerless rubes into giving away their guns (and money?). Then, the government flails helplessly for the next month to pass weak, boilerplate gun control laws and ultimately fails. The powerless rubes spend more of their money on guns.

 

…

 

The sinister mastermind is staring at the television news he controls. His plan has failed. He crushes the Scotch glass in his hand and mutters “this won’t be the last time…”

:lol2:

....or more simply put: FM 31-20, published by the US Army, specifically "directly advocates training paramilitaries, pervasive surveillance, censorship, press control, restrictions on labor unions & political parties, suspending habeas corpus, warrantless searches, detainment without charge, bribery, employing terrorists, false flag operations, concealing human rights abuses from journalists, and extensive use of "psychological operations" (propaganda) to make these and other "population & resource control" measures palatable"

 

...but go with your dark, sinister and unknown person in the shadows, because that's more real anyway....

So what national tragedies/events do you believe were these "False flags" you speak of?

 

There have to be some concrete events you think were concocted by our government to feel so strongly about this.

 

9/11 is perhaps the biggest false flag event in history. There are some pretty strong theories out there that support this was a planned attack and had been planned for years prior. Many believe the ultimate goal was to radicalize Americans against Middle Eastern people which would allow them to support a war effort in Iraq (a country with no ties to the event whatsoever). There is also a theory that a large sum of gold went missing following the attacks, gold that was supposedly stored in the bottom of the trade center. But to be honest there are numerous reasons people have speculated that 9/11 is a false flag and some of the evidence is convincing.

 

Other reasons people have for 9/11 being a false flag attack is that it created homeland security, the patriot act, NSA, and many other programs that have essentially limited our freedoms as Americans. Without the 9/11 attacks none of this would be possible and not only did the people allow it to happen we were all for it.

 

 

You guys will find this hard to believe but Osama Bin Laden was actually an American CIA operative who's real name was Tim Osman (look it up). The CIA and other entities also had a large part in forming and supplying ISIS and other Islamic groups that have fed the Islam vs. US narrative.

9/11 is perhaps the biggest false flag event in history. There are some pretty strong theories out there that support this was a planned attack and had been planned for years prior. Many believe the ultimate goal was to radicalize Americans against Middle Eastern people which would allow them to support a war effort in Iraq (a country with no ties to the event whatsoever). There is also a theory that a large sum of gold went missing following the attacks, gold that was supposedly stored in the bottom of the trade center. But to be honest there are numerous reasons people have speculated that 9/11 is a false flag and some of the evidence is convincing.

 

Other reasons people have for 9/11 being a false flag attack is that it created homeland security, the patriot act, NSA, and many other programs that have essentially limited our freedoms as Americans. Without the 9/11 attacks none of this would be possible and not only did the people allow it to happen we were all for it.

 

 

You guys will find this hard to believe but Osama Bin Laden was actually an American CIA operative who's real name was Tim Osman (look it up). The CIA and other entities also had a large part in forming and supplying ISIS and other Islamic groups that have fed the Islam vs. US narrative.

 

I don't want to put words in your mouth, but this sure sounds like you're saying you think 9/11 was staged or orchestrated by our own government. Is that a fair assumption?

I don't want to put words in your mouth, but this sure sounds like you're saying you think 9/11 was staged or orchestrated by our own government. Is that a fair assumption?

 

I'm not sure what I think to be honest, there's good evidence on both sides. What I did say is that there is "convincing evidence".

 

Also I wouldn't just say "our government" as much I would say "elites" , "Zionists" , "internationalists" , etc., basically meaning those in power who would have something to gain by these events (and believe me many people profited and benefited by those tragic events". It gets dicey when you blame everything on "the government". Usually the government as a central entity would not be involved in something like this and many in government would be clueless. However, there have been notions that there is a "shadow government" or group of elites who are the real shot callers.

 

 

I can already tell you feel this idea is far fetched. I just ask you to do as much research as I have before you start jumping conclusions and bashing me (as I know you're dying to do). Like I said, the patriot effect from 9/11 is very real.

I'm not sure what I think to be honest, there's good evidence on both sides. What I did say is that there is "convincing evidence".

 

Also I wouldn't just say "our government" as much I would say "elites" , "Zionists" , "internationalists" , etc., basically meaning those in power who would have something to gain by these events (and believe me many people profited and benefited by those tragic events". It gets dicey when you blame everything on "the government". Usually the government as a central entity would not be involved in something like this and many in government would be clueless. However, there have been notions that there is a "shadow government" or group of elites who are the real shot callers.

 

 

I can already tell you feel this idea is far fetched. I just ask you to do as much research as I have before you start jumping conclusions and bashing me (as I know you're dying to do). Like I said, the patriot effect from 9/11 is very real.

 

Not bashing you at all. I do find it incredibly far-fetched, but you can believe what you want.