I think she is a similar candidate as we have had. Better than some, but definitely a career politician.

 

Do you think she is corrupt?

 

Shouldn't be difficult to type "Yes" or "No".

I'm registered Democrat and I'll gladly admit I'm not a "true democrat" based on those standards.

 

I probably was in college. After I graduated and started my career, my views changed significantly.

 

Your experience makes sense. I think life experience influences these choices made in the political spectrum. No way someone who claims to be a true democrat hates Obama and no way they are now all of a sudden tired of killing babies. Nevermind that democrats don't kill babies. That makes zero sense logically when true democrats see things of that nature.

Your experience makes sense. I think life experience influences these choices made in the political spectrum. No way someone who claims to be a true democrat hates Obama and no way they are now all of a sudden tired of killing babies. Nevermind that democrats don't kill babies. That makes zero sense logically when true democrats see things of that nature.

 

Democrats support abortion, which is killing babies.

 

Like it or not, that is a fact. You can try to spin it any way you like.

Do you think she is corrupt?

 

Shouldn't be difficult to type "Yes" or "No".

 

Yes. She is a politician.

 

Do you think there is an honest one out there?

Yes. She is a politician.

 

Do you think there is an honest one out there?

 

And that is why a lot of people don't want to support her because they are tired of career politicians. And then, throw in the fact that in my opinion, she is one of the most corrupt politicians we have ever seen.

 

To answer your quest, I'd like to think a lot of the much lower level politicians on the local level are not. However, it seems you have to be corrupt in some way to gain more and more power.

I'll never believe you are a true democrat no matter what you say.

 

I don't know what a "true" democrat is.

I'm registered Democrat and I'll gladly admit I'm not a "true democrat" based on those standards.

 

I probably was in college. After I graduated and started my career, my views changed significantly.

 

I'm the same way. When I was younger, I voted democrat no matter what. As I've gotten older and wiser, I vote for the best candidate.

A true democrat wouldn't say "I am tired of lying, cheating and killing babies." A true democrat wouldn't say anything of that nature. A true democrat knows democrats don't advocate killings babies so the whole intention of those words do not represent "true democrats".

 

 

 

 

A true democrat wouldn't have the track record of saying the things Wireman has continually said about Obama the last 8 years. That isn't a true democrat. I'm a 100X more of a true democrat than Wireman and I refuse to vote for Hillary but I would never in a million years vote for Trump but yet Wireman will vote for Trump and claim to be a true democrat? Hogwash.

 

I wish I had about 1000 thumbs up I could give this !!!!

Democrats support abortion, which is killing babies.

 

Like it or not, that is a fact. You can try to spin it any way you like.

 

Being pro choice is not supporting abortion but spin it anyway that you like.

I don't know what a "true" democrat is.

 

Your line about killing babies ruined any chances I'd believe you've ever been a true democrat. You may have thought you were but no way would someone who once identified as a democrat would say they are tired of killing babies and don't want to be a democrat anymore.

Being pro choice is not supporting abortion but spin it anyway that you like.

 

That is Liberal spin for killing babies.

 

We may as well agree to disagree. You will never convince me otherwise.

That is Liberal spin for killing babies.

 

We may as well agree to disagree. You will never convince me otherwise.

 

:lol2: :lol2:

Being pro choice is not supporting abortion but spin it anyway that you like.

 

Correct.

 

I know a whole heck of a lot of people that are pro-choice and very much anti-abortion. To say pro-choice means you support abortion shows a complete lack of understanding as to what the words "pro-choice" mean.

Correct.

 

I know a whole heck of a lot of people that are pro-choice and very much anti-abortion. To say pro-choice means you support abortion shows a complete lack of understanding as to what the words "pro-choice" mean.

 

I have always been pro choice but I would never under pretty much any circumstance advocate having an abortion.

Your line about killing babies ruined any chances I'd believe you've ever been a true democrat. You may have thought you were but no way would someone who once identified as a democrat would say they are tired of killing babies and don't want to be a democrat anymore.

 

Let me put it another way...I was trained hard to be a democrat my entire life when growing up. I had the democratic keys handed to me when I turned 18. I was given summer jobs over other people who probably needed them more because I was "in" with the democrats in my hometown. The democrats gave pretty much every member of my family loads of gravel, blacktop and heavy equipment work so we would "know" who to vote for. I was handed $20 bills at the polling places a few times to make sure I "voted the right way". I was a true democrat. As I got older and started trying to understand how things actually are, I started to have questions. Of course, those were met with "we always go with the democratic candidate because we are poor and they will help us..." Now that I'm old enough to fully understand everything, I don't believe I am a "true" democrat. After this election, I will almost certainly change my official affiliation to what I believe suits me best; ethically, morally and financially.