August 8, 201610 yr If you're saying the person running is KNOWN to have had a gun and has it out while running then we're in agreement. That's not the case in this example. So when does a guy who tried to kill people no longer become a threat, when he hasnt been detained yet?
August 8, 201610 yr So when does a guy who tried to kill people no longer become a threat, when he hasnt been detained yet? Maybe when he no longer has the weapon?
August 8, 201610 yr Maybe when he no longer has the weapon? Well heck lets give him a get out of jail free card and a milkshake cause he dropped his weapon.
August 8, 201610 yr Well heck lets give him a get out of jail free card and a milkshake cause he dropped his weapon. His weapon was a car, correct? He certainly shouldn't get a "get out of jail free card" or a milkshake. I'm not sure that he should have been shot in the back, though.
August 8, 201610 yr So a guy who used a car as a weapon against persons is not a threat? Was he in the car when he was shot?
August 8, 201610 yr Was he in the car when he was shot? What does it matter, he is a threat whether in a car or not in a car. Dude tried to commit murder.
August 8, 201610 yr His weapon was a car, correct? He certainly shouldn't get a "get out of jail free card" or a milkshake. I'm not sure that he should have been shot in the back, though. Havent some said he dropped a gun, so I guess a car and a gun. My argument would be that he himself was weapon enough, man was trying to kill people.
August 8, 201610 yr What does it matter' date=' he is a threat whether in a car or not in a car. Dude tried to commit murder.[/quote'] So let's simplify it for purpose of discussion. Instead of running the guy gets out of his car with his hands up. Can the officer still shoot since "dude tried to commit murder?"
August 8, 201610 yr Havent some said he dropped a gun' date=' so I guess a car and a gun. My argument would be that he himself was weapon enough, man was trying to kill people.[/quote'] No weapon was seen nor found.
August 8, 201610 yr Havent some said he dropped a gun, so I guess a car and a gun. My argument would be that he himself was weapon enough, man was trying to kill people. Who said that?
August 8, 201610 yr So let's simplify it for purpose of discussion. Instead of running the guy gets out of his car with his hands up. Can the officer still shoot since "dude tried to commit murder?" No, he should have been dead before getting out of the car. If he is a threat, you eliminate it then and now.
August 8, 201610 yr No' date=' he should have been dead before getting out of the car. If he is a threat, you eliminate it then and now.[/quote'] You're avoiding the true debate.
August 8, 201610 yr You're avoiding the true debate. What is the true debate? If someone is running from police there is a reason correct? in this case the reason was he tried to murder them, and was therefore shot.
August 8, 201610 yr What is the true debate? If someone is running from police there is a reason correct? in this case the reason was he tried to murder them, and was therefore shot. You can't frown upon murder in one breath and promote it in the next... I mean you are, but it's pretty contradictory.
August 8, 201610 yr What is the true debate? If someone is running from police there is a reason correct? in this case the reason was he tried to murder them, and was therefore shot. He was no longer in the car. That was the deadly weapon that he had used. He no longer had his "murder" weapon.
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