Also, I think it depends on what you mean by "without moving up". Again, in my industry, a resume can say a person has been a Front Office Manager for 20 years at 6 different hotels. Doesn't look like he's moved up, but a closer look reveals he started at a Candlwood and now is at the Palmer House Hilton. Night and day difference in the jobs of an FOM for a limited service vs. A 5 star luxury hotel. But, not always a huge disparity in pay.

 

Yes, I can see how it would be industry dependent, like what you are in. I would compare it to construction as well, guys are always moving to other companies in the construction industry for various reasons.

 

Reviewed a persons resume yesterday, 50+, never been anywhere longer than 6 years, most places 2-4 years, few places 1-2 years, "all over the map" with jobs. Even if this person qualified for an interview, which I don't think they would anyway even if I wanted to interview them, the amount of jobs and jumping around they had done just didn't feel right. I guess it's one of those "have to see it" kind of things.

What do you mean by "very long"? A couple of months, a year, three years, five years?

 

I've read quite a lot of reports that people who stay in one position for a long time make substantially less money than new hires at the same position. One way to keep your pay competitive with the market is to make a lateral move.

 

Depends on the job too, I suppose. A minimum wage applicant who has jumped around every few months versus a professional who has moved a couple of times a decade or so are wildly different.

 

Just my $0.02.

You also have to look at the reasons for leaving. I've gotten hung up in 2 closures, 1 corporate takeovers, a division shutdown and transfer and a mass layoff. All but one of which directly led to me looking for a new job. I did spend at least two years in all of those situations. And throw in a career change where I basically had to start over again from scratch, and my resume shows some job changes. But I've shown growth and progress in short time in each position, so I guess that mitigates the job changes somewhat.

 

Job jumping seems to be very common nowadays, especially with mobile retirement plans such as 401k's. Just go to Linkedin and see how many high level folks change jobs regularly.

What do you mean by "very long"? A couple of months, a year, three years, five years?

 

I've read quite a lot of reports that people who stay in one position for a long time make substantially less money than new hires at the same position. One way to keep your pay competitive with the market is to make a lateral move.

 

Depends on the job too, I suppose. A minimum wage applicant who has jumped around every few months versus a professional who has moved a couple of times a decade or so are wildly different.

 

Just my $0.02.

 

Back in the day it would make sense to stay at the company because in the end you would likely working towards a pension of some kind. Those days are long gone.

I will also say, especially during 08/09/10, companies were downsizing like crazy and many companies were going under or being bought out. I had a friend worked for about 4 companies in less than 3 years and everyone of them either shut their doors or downsized a significant amount of their workforce. Maybe she was the cause of it?

What do you mean by "very long"? A couple of months, a year, three years, five years?

 

I've read quite a lot of reports that people who stay in one position for a long time make substantially less money than new hires at the same position. One way to keep your pay competitive with the market is to make a lateral move.

 

Depends on the job too, I suppose. A minimum wage applicant who has jumped around every few months versus a professional who has moved a couple of times a decade or so are wildly different.

 

Just my $0.02.

 

Our company is great at letting someone leave to go somewhere else and then re-hiring them at a higher pay down the road. We had a guy get laid off during a reduction in force, received 6 months serverance. He went to work for a competitor immediately so got to keep his full severance and within a year was hired back to us at a higher pay. Worked out great for him.

I will also say, especially during 08/09/10, companies were downsizing like crazy and many companies were going under or being bought out. I had a friend worked for about 4 companies in less than 3 years and everyone of them either shut their doors or downsized a significant amount of their workforce. Maybe she was the cause of it?

That's easily explained in the "Reason for Leaving" section that should accompany the information for each previous employer.

That's easily explained in the "Reason for Leaving" section that should accompany the information for each previous employer.

 

Typically only on a formal application and not on a resume as a rule. As a recruiter, I wouldn't even sniff an application if I couldn't get past the resume question

Typically only on a formal application and not on a resume as a rule. As a recruiter, I wouldn't even sniff an application if I couldn't get past the resume question

 

We typically get both a resume and a formal application when listing a job on the register. I pay more attention to the application than the resume, IF a candidate makes it past the resume part...there is much more info on it, including criminal history, which one of these had as well. Lots of job hopping AND a few criminal convections don't go well together.

We typically get both a resume and a formal application when listing a job on the register. I pay more attention to the application than the resume, IF a candidate makes it past the resume part...there is much more info on it, including criminal history, which one of these had as well. Lots of job hopping AND a few criminal convections don't go well together.

 

Not to reveal anything...but I think you found your source pool when you said: "the register". That's not an indictment of where or for whom you may work, but I do believe it does speak to the candidates that are more typically going to apply..

 

My guess is you get the people you are referencing and new grads....having been a former "register" candidate I feel pretty solid in that assessment...no offense to you or any other long time employees, just an observation about the job market and applicant pools.

Not to reveal anything...but I think you found your source pool when you said: "the register". That's not an indictment of where or for whom you may work, but I do believe it does speak to the candidates that are more typically going to apply..

 

My guess is you get the people you are referencing and new grads....having been a former "register" candidate I feel pretty solid in that assessment...no offense to you or any other long time employees, just an observation about the job market and applicant pools.

 

Applicants are no longer pre screened before we get them, so anyone that hits the button to apply for the job shows up and we end up seeing applications/resumes of people who have absolutely no chance of interviewing for the position, much less actually getting the job. Really a waste of our time to have to go through it all, but luckily I only have about 22 or so on this one to go through, and some I can quickly disregard as it's easy to spot they don't qualify for in interview.

I think raises some concerns, but it also is a sign of the times.

 

I've interviewed more than once with people who have told me their philosophy is no more than 2-3 years max at one place. That when a job becomes complacent and stale productivity and efficiency suffer.

 

:idunno:

 

Got disqualified for a job one time because they said, "Didn't have enough experience in multiple environments" because at the time I had worked for two companies at that point, one for 5 years, and one for 6 years. (the first company was my job through college, the second was my job right after college.)

 

Shocked me at the time, but when I did my days as a contract professional I realized how odd it was to work for a place more than 2-3 years.

I will also say, especially during 08/09/10, companies were downsizing like crazy and many companies were going under or being bought out. I had a friend worked for about 4 companies in less than 3 years and everyone of them either shut their doors or downsized a significant amount of their workforce. Maybe she was the cause of it?

 

Very true, also lots of companies were not hiring employees but contractor personnel for various projects and duties. Was easier for the company to limit the staffing dollars that way. Worked out great for me, made a killing from 09-11 doing contract work for multiple companies, including a former employer.

What do you mean by "very long"? A couple of months, a year, three years, five years?

 

I've read quite a lot of reports that people who stay in one position for a long time make substantially less money than new hires at the same position. One way to keep your pay competitive with the market is to make a lateral move.

 

Depends on the job too, I suppose. A minimum wage applicant who has jumped around every few months versus a professional who has moved a couple of times a decade or so are wildly different.

 

Just my $0.02.

 

Id say that is Employer specific as well though. Where I currently work I am the least senior person in our department (ive been here since mid 2012.) There are 11 of us, 6 have been here for over 10 years, 1 person 8 years, and the rest were hired just before me in 2012 as part of expansion for a new business line.

 

I have never seen that anywhere I worked before. I will also add that we do pretty good, with mid year raises, a merit raise each year and a significant year end bonus (that is determined based on financials.)

 

I will add that at a previous employment, I got zero raises, no bonus, and had a revolving door of managers for time I was there. If it wasnt for the fact that I traveled 70% of the time, got to do a lot of things in the places I travel for work and pretty much set my own schedule, I would have left sooner.