Trump is one of the faces of Corporate America. A face that has donated to the Clintons in the past and has been part of the special interest, behind the scene political machine.

 

Trump, being a business man, played the game with politicians that he had to play in order to be successful. I see a lot wrong with that system, but nothing wrong with a business man playing the game. The only other option would have been to fail.

Donald Trump isn't corporate America? That's like saying Michael Jordan isn't basketball.

 

So liberals will admit Hillary is owned by them as well? We're making progress.

Trump, being a business man, played the game with politicians that he had to play in order to be successful. I see a lot wrong with that system, but nothing wrong with a business man playing the game. The only other option would have been to fail.

 

I didn't say there was anything wrong with the way Trump did business or that he shouldn't have "played the game". My only point was that it's being made out that Trump is somehow different, or above the political "game". It's simply not true.

So liberals will admit Hillary is owned by them as well? We're making progress.

 

I didn't realize anyone or any liberal was denying it. I think we all know who Hillary Clinton is. Hell, we should all know who Bernie is by now for that matter.

I didn't say there was anything wrong with the way Trump did business or that he shouldn't have "played the game". My only point was that it's being made out that Trump is somehow different, or above the political "game". It's simply not true.

 

We disagree on this. The creators of the "game" are very different than those that have to participate in order to succeed. Trump is an outsider of the political game. Politicians are the insiders that created the game.

That is the passive-aggressive chicken you know what approach.

 

Since '96 the Democratic candidate hasn't been within 15% of the GOP candidate in KY. Keep pretending...

Since '96 the Democratic candidate hasn't been within 15% of the GOP candidate in KY. Keep pretending...

 

I think we are off on tangent here.

 

Voting third party is fine if the 3rd party candidate has a realistic chance to win. Voting 3rd party in protest when that candidate has no chance to win is a waste of time and effort.

I think we are off on tangent here.

 

Voting third party is fine if the 3rd party candidate has a realistic chance to win. Voting 3rd party in protest when that candidate has no chance to win is a waste of time and effort.

We aren't at all.

 

You're saying that it's a waste of time and effort because that candidate has no realistic chance of winning. I'm telling you that a vote for GOP/Dem in KY is "a waste of time and effort" --- your words --- because the Democrat has no chance of winning.

 

You however aren't looking at the full picture. An election can mean more than just who gets elected President. A third party is much closer to gaining ballot-access in KY than a Democrat is of winning...

We aren't at all.

 

You're saying that it's a waste of time and effort because that candidate has no realistic chance of winning. I'm telling you that a vote for GOP/Dem in KY is "a waste of time and effort" --- your words --- because the Democrat has no chance of winning.

 

You however aren't looking at the full picture. An election can mean more than just who gets elected President. A third party is much closer to gaining ballot-access in KY than a Democrat is of winning...

 

I see what you are saying.

I think we are off on tangent here.

 

Voting third party is fine if the 3rd party candidate has a realistic chance to win. Voting 3rd party in protest when that candidate has no chance to win is a waste of time and effort.

 

So what you're basically saying is even if you don't agree with either candidate on a single issue, you're chicken you know what if you don't vote for one of them?

So what you're basically saying is even if you don't agree with either candidate on a single issue, you're chicken you know what if you don't vote for one of them?

 

My involvement in this thread is way off course.

 

PP92 suggested I should vote 3rd Party because because I think Clinton is a criminal and needs to be taken out of the election process.

My involvement in this thread is way off course.

 

PP92 suggested I should vote 3rd Party because because I think Clinton is a criminal and needs to be taken out of the election process.

 

Fair enough. I'll start a separate thread on 3rd Party voting then.

Fair enough. I'll start a separate thread on 3rd Party voting then.

 

I appreciate it, too much got lost in the translation in this thread for me personally.