March 23, 201610 yr Author Vision people ....vision... I'll repeat: "The social behavior of it is way too rampant to be considered random. It's gotten out of control and somehow needs to be reeled in. I don't know if fines are the answer, but we as a culture need to start discouraging it just like we have with cigarette smoking. Though is was once done just about everywhere even with a doctor sitting at your bedside, society has dramatically changed their views on it to the point that smokers are made to do it in designated areas and are made to feel guilty for doing it around people who despise it. The message that texting while walking in public is frowned upon needs to surface loudly with the hopes that one day it can effectively change from the nonsense we are now presently experiencing everyday all day".
March 23, 201610 yr Should they ban wearing headphones while walking in public as well? You might not hear someone yell, a police siren, an ambulance, or perhaps a dog barking at a robber. This is a waste of time and silly.
March 23, 201610 yr Should they ban wearing headphones while walking in public as well? You might not hear someone yell, a police siren, an ambulance, or perhaps a dog barking at a robber. This is a waste of time and silly. That's visionary HT!
March 23, 201610 yr Should they ban wearing headphones while walking in public as well? You might not hear someone yell, a police siren, an ambulance, or perhaps a dog barking at a robber. This is a waste of time and silly. No, let darwin do his thing.
March 23, 201610 yr Vision people ....vision... I'll repeat: "The social behavior of it is way too rampant to be considered random. It's gotten out of control and somehow needs to be reeled in. I don't know if fines are the answer, but we as a culture need to start discouraging it just like we have with cigarette smoking. Though is was once done just about everywhere even with a doctor sitting at your bedside, society has dramatically changed their views on it to the point that smokers are made to do it in designated areas and are made to feel guilty for doing it around people who despise it. The message that texting while walking in public is frowned upon needs to surface loudly with the hopes that one day it can effectively change from the nonsense we are now presently experiencing everyday all day". It's not random. It's common, because that's the world we live in today. There is already legislation that can apply to this, it's jay walking. Trying to legislate people using their phones on the sidewalk is remarkably useless. Again, this "issue" is nowhere close to the same spectrum as smoking.
March 23, 201610 yr What was the question posed to me? Why do I get the suspicion that you are one of the culprits who walk and text everywhere making others have to look out for you because you're too busy not paying attention? Long ago a need was seen to have certain rules for pedestrians and motorists in order to keep some order and to avoid accidents. We now have a new problem that didn't exist years ago that needs to be adjusted to avoid accidents. Years ago I had the vision to see where this was headed and just like I thought, here we are. I also realize that many in the general public lack vision, so it follows that they're incapable of understanding. This was the question posed: So you want to legislate what some may deem " not normal "behavior ? You can "suspect" what you want about me. All that says is that you assume I'm part of the "issue" because I don't agree with you on the topic. Along the same lines, people don't lack vision or the capability to understand a topic just because they disagree with you.
March 23, 201610 yr Author This was the question posed: You can "suspect" what you want about me. All that says is that you assume I'm part of the "issue" because I don't agree with you on the topic. Along the same lines, people don't lack vision or the capability to understand a topic just because they disagree with you. It's not the same issue as smoking. I was using that as an example of how things can change with society's perception from what they once were to what they are now. Perhaps not everyone yet sees that danger of the masses blindly and numbly walking around in public, but evidence shows that more and more pedestrians are causing dangerous mishaps by this newfound behavior. We can try to address it, or just let it be. I don't know that fines are the answer, but I'm for it being addressed like driving and texting has been addressed. It's puzzling to think that people would do that, but people do dumbly drive and text by the thousands. We just can't keep pretending that that, and the masses not watching where they are walking is fine and dandy. It's become dangerous and disruptive. As far as answering the question posed, I did. It was a ridiculous connection being made.
March 23, 201610 yr It's not the same issue as smoking. I was using that as an example of how things can change with society's perception from what they once were to what they are now. Perhaps not everyone yet sees that danger of the masses blindly and numbly walking around in public, but evidence shows that more and more pedestrians are causing dangerous mishaps by this newfound behavior. We can try to address it, or just let it be. I don't know that fines are the answer, but I'm for it being addressed like driving and texting has been addressed. It's puzzling to think that people would do that, but people do dumbly drive and text by the thousands. We just can't keep pretending that that, and the masses not watching where they are walking is fine and dandy. It's become dangerous and disruptive. As far as answering the question posed, I did. It was a ridiculous connection being made. How are people walking on sidewalks looking at their phones dangerous? I'm failing to see that. Also, just because it's disruptive to a few doesn't make it so. Where did you answer the question posed?
March 23, 201610 yr Author How are people walking on sidewalks looking at their phones dangerous? I'm failing to see that. Also, just because it's disruptive to a few doesn't make it so. Where did you answer the question posed? Please tell me that I don't have to explain to you where not watching where you are going is dangerous, and multiply that by the masses doing it, it's even more dangerous. It's more than disruptive to a few, it's disruptive to many on a daily basis. I guess with so many people doing it now, you're also going to have the camp that defends doing it. Which camp are you? I addressed the question posed many posts ago with considering it to be shallow attempt at an illogical "spin", which it was. It's not even deserving of anymore analysis than that because it's ridiculous and not worthy of me entertaining it as a valid thought any further. I'm not dashing it, but how far must one go to explain where the thinking doesn't follow?
March 23, 201610 yr Please tell me that I don't have to explain to you where not watching where you are going is dangerous, and multiply that by the masses doing it, it's even more dangerous. It's more than disruptive to a few, it's disruptive to many on a daily basis. I guess with so many people doing it now, you're also going to have the camp that defends doing it. Which camp are you? I addressed the question posed many posts ago with considering it to be shallow attempt at an illogical "spin", which it was. It's not even deserving of anymore analysis than that because it's ridiculous and not worthy of me entertaining it as a valid thought any further. I'm not dashing it, but how far must one go to explain where the thinking doesn't follow? Not watching where you are going and texting while you are walking are not automatically the same thing. I can text while I walk and never run into anyone or thing, and never disrupt anybody else. It's certainly not dangerous. If I were going to be in a camp, I would be in the camp that defends it, because I can (along with thousands of other people) do it just fine without causing anyone any problems. Those who are against it are probably the kind of people that find themselves going against most things that are common. Is that the case with you? And you haven't answered the question, you simply turned your nose up at it. You said: This is not even kinda sorta a problem. The voiceless social acceptance of this has helped this annoyance carry on far too long to the point that it's just considered normal because we're now so used to seeing it. There's nothing normal about it as it is dumb as hell for people to do it, and even dumber that the general public would be OK with it. YOU are saying it's not normal. He asked you if you wanted legislation for something some think is not normal. You have yet to answer that question, because you keep dodging it.
March 23, 201610 yr Author Not watching where you are going and texting while you are walking are not automatically the same thing. I can text while I walk and never run into anyone or thing, and never disrupt anybody else. It's certainly not dangerous. If I were going to be in a camp, I would be in the camp that defends it, because I can (along with thousands of other people) do it just fine without causing anyone any problems. Those who are against it are probably the kind of people that find themselves going against most things that are common. Is that the case with you? And you haven't answered the question, you simply turned your nose up at it. You said: YOU are saying it's not normal. He asked you if you wanted legislation for something some think is not normal. You have yet to answer that question, because you keep dodging it. There's little surprise that you would be one that would do it considering that you are so strongly defending it. And it's puzzling that any of this would have to be explained, but perhaps it's the sign of the times. I have more times than I've cared to count have had to adjust my path and pay even closer attention while walking down the street because of others who obviously aren't. They've got their nose in their phone and to them that's more important than anything else. It's a self-centered disrespect toward everyone around them where they're forcing everyone else to make concessions for them to have to be extra careful and responsible about watching where they're going because the person texting is using minimal at the least amount of responsibility, expecting others to be the ones who have to do the watching. Why's that my job? The fact that it's common speaks volumes. I'm not against it simply because it's common. It being common means that a lot of people do it, so a lot of people doing it adds to the disruption. I disapprove of so many people being disruptive, and I'm against is because it is downright moronic. Back to the other moronic question: Because I addressed the general public considering texting and walking as "normal" because they are used to seeing it, and said that it's not normal and that it's stupid, the "implication" was that since me being gay is considered abnormal to some, how would I like it if there was legislation against it, trying to connect homosexuality to the walking and texting and me being OK with one and not the other as if that was a logical correlation and brilliant point. I responded that this was a shallow attempt at spinning my stance, which it is unless you opt to accept it as a legitimate point, which I don't. One is a sexual orientation, the other has to do with cooperating and respecting others while civilly navigating when out in public. I'm not even terribly bent on it being legislated as much as I'd like to see society as a whole get around to realizing that it's stupid and start to discourage it. Whereas you kept thinking that I was comparing smoking to texting when I wasn't I had to continue to explain why I made the connection, I agreed with you that smoking and texting are not the same, but there was a particular reason I used it as an example show how society's attitudes can dramatically change.
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