You're just being obtuse at this point.

 

You know there's a difference and are simply arguing for the sake of arguing.

 

What I am saying is if its ok for a bar owner to refuse service to a person, why isnt it ok for any other person in another type of business. Where are the parameters for this?

So its ok to discriminate against those that like alcohol?

 

How is that discrimination? They're obeying the law.

How is that discrimination? They're obeying the law.

 

Your allowing the bar owner the right to choose who they serve and who they dont based upon his/her opinion. How is that different than the OP?

Your allowing the bar owner the right to choose who they serve and who they dont based upon his/her opinion. How is that different than the OP?

 

Because they can get sued or possibly lose their business otherwise. It's the law.

If you open a business to serve the public, you should serve the public. There would be exceptions, such as if the customer has bad credit, drunk, or a history of bad behavior.

 

Though I don't share her views, I did support the baker who declined to make a gay wedding cake. She didn't refuse to serve the gay community, just that specific product. She should subsequently suffer the economic repercussions as part of that refusal.

If I own a business I shouldn't be forced to do business with anyone and I should be forced to hang up any sign. It's my business and my money.

Should an African American owner of a bakery be allowed to refuse to make a cake for a KKK rally? Should a Military Veteran owned bakery be forced to make a cake for a Westboro Baptist Church bake sale?

Should an African American owner of a bakery be allowed to refuse to make a cake for a KKK rally? Should a Military Veteran owned bakery be forced to make a cake for a Westboro Baptist Church bake sale?

 

The point is if you allow businesses to refuse under those circumstances it opens the door for businesses to refuse under many other circumstances.

The point is if you allow businesses to refuse under those circumstances it opens the door for businesses to refuse under many other circumstances.

 

I understand the point you are making, but how can one justify forcing businesses to do this? Another scenario: Many recording artists, who make money off the sales of their music, have disallowed certain politicians to use their music at their campaign rallies. If the campaigns have paid their royalty fees to the proper music union associations, should the artists have this right?

If I own a business I shouldn't be forced to do business with anyone and I should be forced to hang up any sign. It's my business and my money.

 

 

There are a multitude of rules and regulations and guidelines that businesses must follow. No one is free to open up a business and do whatever they want to do. There are safety laws. There are employment and minimum wage laws. The argument that a business owner should be able to do what they want to do is a non-starter.

 

This is a civil rights issue that people lost their lives fighting for. If you are a real American and believe in this country's values, then you will not want restrictions like what is being proposed in Kentucky. If you like the restrictions, then you also approve of a community that follows Sharia law.

I understand the point you are making, but how can one justify forcing businesses to do this? Another scenario: Many recording artists, who make money off the sales of their music, have disallowed certain politicians to use their music at their campaign rallies. If the campaigns have paid their royalty fees to the proper music union associations, should the artists have this right?

 

I agree, it is a slippery slope we shouldn't be going down.

There are a multitude of rules and regulations and guidelines that businesses must follow. No one is free to open up a business and do whatever they want to do. There are safety laws. There are employment and minimum wage laws. The argument that a business owner should be able to do what they want to do is a non-starter.

 

This is a civil rights issue that people lost their lives fighting for. If you are a real American and believe in this country's values, then you will not want restrictions like what is being proposed in Kentucky. If you like the restrictions, then you also approve of a community that follows Sharia law.

 

Preach on Brother Voice!

There are a multitude of rules and regulations and guidelines that businesses must follow. No one is free to open up a business and do whatever they want to do. There are safety laws. There are employment and minimum wage laws. The argument that a business owner should be able to do what they want to do is a non-starter.

 

This is a civil rights issue that people lost their lives fighting for. If you are a real American and believe in this country's values, then you will not want restrictions like what is being proposed in Kentucky. If you like the restrictions, then you also approve of a community that follows Sharia law.

Please tell me where I said a business owner should be able to do as they like. I'll wait.

 

As far as the second part of your post, give me a break. If the only argument you have is "you're not a real American if you you don't agree with me" then there I guess we're done. Sharia Law? Really?

I agree, it is a slippery slope we shouldn't be going down.

 

If we should not go down that road, should we also avoid infringing on the 1st amendment rights of anyone in this site who chooses to invoke racism or any other ism in their rants? They are after all doing business with you by paying for the right to participate.

If we should not go down that road, should we also avoid infringing on the 1st amendment rights of anyone in this site who chooses to invoke racism or any other ism in their rants? They are after all doing business with you by paying for the right to participate.

 

We all know the right to free speech is not absolute.

 

But to answer your question, at least BGP has the balls to publicly post what is not allowed at BGP.