I guess us believers walk around like zombies, wholly unaware of all of these things that the deep thinkers and open minded types see that we just can't.

 

Our minds are so closed they just can't be boggled I guess.

 

It really wasn't mean as attack, as the Guru said. What I said, and your interpretation of it, are very different things. If I said what you typed, I would apologize, but I didn't. I will stand by my statement, with the above-provision that it was meant as an observation and not an attack, but without elaboration or examples at this point. Another thread perhaps one day.

With???

 

This ain't the first rodeo for the Lone Star state vis-a-vis textbook issues.

 

Texas: We don't need academics to fact-check our textbooks (+video) - CSMonitor.com

 

Controversial Texas textbooks headed to classrooms

 

http://www.newsweek.com/company-behind-texas-textbook-calling-slaves-workers-apologizes-we-made-380168

 

How Texas Inflicts Bad Textbooks on Us by Gail Collins | The New York Review of Books

This ain't the first rodeo for the Lone Star state vis-a-vis textbook issues.

 

Texas: We don't need academics to fact-check our textbooks (+video) - CSMonitor.com

 

Controversial Texas textbooks headed to classrooms

 

http://www.newsweek.com/company-behind-texas-textbook-calling-slaves-workers-apologizes-we-made-380168

 

How Texas Inflicts Bad Textbooks on Us by Gail Collins | The New York Review of Books

 

I knew this wasn't their first time.

 

You can't fix stupid.

As an atheist walking around in the world, I think we see "things" that other people just kinda glaze over cause they believe. In this case, her views are not that uncommon. She does seem to be able to articulate them in a particularly stupid way though. Anti-evolution, Anti-Obama, Anti-gay. Not that uncommon of a combination.

 

So I guess as a white believer with a gay daughter, two straight sons and two black daughters, I can't see "things" non-believers do.

As an educator ,this kind of thing is incredibly bothersome , almost to the point of keeping me up at night.

 

I didn't know me being at a loss for words affected you that much. In the future I will try to say more.

Our minds are open to possibilities that the non believers can't or won't see.

 

It is what it is.

 

I am open minded. I said agnostic, not atheist.

I am open minded. I said agnostic, not atheist.

 

Your are not a non believer then, you are open to possibilities.

I am open minded. I said agnostic, not atheist.

 

Your are not a non believer then, you are open to possibilities.

 

I am open to possibilities as well, notwithstanding your mis-understanding of my decision-making process. I go by what there is evidence for. I don't believe in god or unicorns. If evidence is produced that proves either, I would adjust. But, based on the current evidence, I see no reason to say "I don't believe in unicorns, but maybe they existed at one time." There is no evidence for unicorns. Likewise for god.

I am open to possibilities as well, notwithstanding your mis-understanding of my decision-making process. I go by what there is evidence for. I don't believe in god or unicorns. If evidence is produced that proves either, I would adjust. But, based on the current evidence, I see no reason to say "I don't believe in unicorns, but maybe they existed at one time." There is no evidence for unicorns. Likewise for god.

 

If you go by evidence only you are certainly not open minded.

If you go by evidence only you are certainly not open minded.

 

Sure I am lol. Open to anything that can be proven. As opposed to believing in something based on "faith" A "faith" based belief is a closed minded belief. Because it puts the conclusion in front of the proof and evidence. I can change my mind if proof or evidence is brought forth. Religious believers often don't. One is open-minded, one is closed-minded. Believing in something for which there is no proof doesn't make someone open-minded, it is the opposite. They take a position and then refuse to consider the alternatives.

Sure I am lol. Open to anything that can be proven. As opposed to believing in something based on "faith" A "faith" based belief is a closed minded belief. Because it puts the conclusion in front of the proof and evidence. I can change my mind if proof or evidence is brought forth. Religious believers often don't. One is open-minded, one is closed-minded. Believing in something for which there is no proof doesn't make someone open-minded, it is the opposite. They take a position and then refuse to consider the alternatives.

 

...And again another mouthful of good sense and logic.

Sure I am lol. Open to anything that can be proven. As opposed to believing in something based on "faith" A "faith" based belief is a closed minded belief. Because it puts the conclusion in front of the proof and evidence. I can change my mind if proof or evidence is brought forth. Religious believers often don't. One is open-minded, one is closed-minded. Believing in something for which there is no proof doesn't make someone open-minded, it is the opposite. They take a position and then refuse to consider the alternatives.

 

NICE !!!

...And again another mouthful of good sense and logic.

 

Very good, in fact.

Sure I am lol. Open to anything that can be proven. As opposed to believing in something based on "faith" A "faith" based belief is a closed minded belief. Because it puts the conclusion in front of the proof and evidence. I can change my mind if proof or evidence is brought forth. Religious believers often don't. One is open-minded, one is closed-minded. Believing in something for which there is no proof doesn't make someone open-minded, it is the opposite. They take a position and then refuse to consider the alternatives.

 

So you think I am closed minded because I am a Christian?

So you think I am closed minded because I am a Christian?

 

If you believe whole-heartedly that there is a magic man in the sky that created all there is, despite the fact that there is not a shred of evidence leading in that direction, then I'd say YES, "closed-minded" should adequately sum you up.