I think TMC would beat Georgetown.

 

This year it would probably be closer than in the past, but i think GTown wins pretty easily. The previous 5-15 years it would be a 30+ blowout in favor of GTown.

I would agree that NAIA is on average a better product than Dlll, mostly you see it at the line of scrimmage, that is where I think NAIA has the biggest advantage....also you look at a number of the better NAIA rosters and they are littered with ex D1 players who did not quite make the cut at that level.

You can't say if he would be a finalist for the Gagliardi. First of all - kids who transfer from NAIA to D3 aren't automatic stars. Secondly, the Gagliardi is as much about Community Service and GPA as it is about on field accolades.

 

Division 3 Top 25 programs are very comparable with any NAIA team. Would NAIA teams have great success against teams outside of the Top 25 or 30 - yes.

Again - you are wrong. Even some of the greats who've played at Gtown would tell you so.

 

If NAIA is so great, why are schools leaving to join NCAA Division 3?

NAIA D1 would dismantle NCAA D3 in almost every game.

 

 

Wrong - Google Morningside vs Whitewater

Still true that most NAIA schools are offering some type of grant in aid while d3 does not? D2 offers limited grant in aid.

 

If the kid has good grades, he can get more money from a Division 3 school than he would a partial athletic based grant at an NAIA school. Some would say from a more credible institution, too.

There is such a HUGE gulf in talent and quality at the DIII level. Georgetown and teams in their conference would own Centre's conference and Thomas More's. They would be more evenly matched with the Wisconsin-Whitewaters and Mount Unions. There are only, really, 8 NAIA level teams in DIII. DII is a better comparison.

 

This isn't even close, Mexitucky. They are very evenly matched across the board. When Thomas More was bad in 1998 they played a close game with a bad Campbellsville team.

 

The Top 5 teams in D3 would completely wipe out teams in that conference with Georgetown.

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Wrong - Google Morningside vs Whitewater

 

"In almost every game..."

This isn't even close, Mexitucky. They are very evenly matched across the board. When Thomas More was bad in 1998 they played a close game with a bad Campbellsville team.

 

The Top 5 teams in D3 would completely wipe out teams in that conference with Georgetown.

 

What? I said compare conference by conference, and actually, I was very specific on which conferences to compare. I mentioned that Mt. Union's conference, the OAC, was a better comparison. I don't see White-Water wiping out the top NAIA teams, I just don't.

You can't say if he would be a finalist for the Gagliardi. First of all - kids who transfer from NAIA to D3 aren't automatic stars. Secondly, the Gagliardi is as much about Community Service and GPA as it is about on field accolades.

 

Division 3 Top 25 programs are very comparable with any NAIA team. Would NAIA teams have great success against teams outside of the Top 25 or 30 - yes.

 

Who are you referring to here? Bardo? He most certainly would have been. Stormer was, Dietz was, Bardo was more athletic than both and would have put up huge double threat numbers.

Why don't we see more KY NAIA teams playing Centre/Thomas More and the various OH D-III Schools given geographic proximity?

Why don't we see more KY NAIA teams playing Centre/Thomas More and the various OH D-III Schools given geographic proximity?

 

I don't know. I don't know the rules on NCAA and NAIA playing regular season games. I know that the JV teams play each other on occasion. I believe TMC and GT JVs played a couple of weeks ago.

If the kid has good grades, he can get more money from a Division 3 school than he would a partial athletic based grant at an NAIA school. Some would say from a more credible institution, too.

 

True but the tuition is generally way more at a d3 school. Getting a $10K academic scholly will still leave you owing $20K.

Who are you referring to here? Bardo? He most certainly would have been. Stormer was, Dietz was, Bardo was more athletic than both and would have put up huge double threat numbers.

 

Yes I'm referring to Bardo. Agree to disagree but I hope you do realize how much more athletic and sophisticated the game has gotten in D3 since Stormer and Dietz played (which was my era too). I guess it depends on where he went to school, who coached him and also how much he volunteered and what his GPA would've been. All of these are hypotheticals.

 

I guess I'm upset because I see a lot of uninformed opinions here about d3, especially when comparing to NAIA. It's NOT glorified High School Football like some think around these parts. I let a lot of the really ignorant posts go and responded to people like yourself, who I think are just a bit off the mark.

As far as competition goes I think the nod has to go NAIA D1. Very similar talent wise to NCAA DII. But the NAIA doesn't have the same restrictions that NCAA schools have. For instance, they can bring in a lot more kids for their teams. I am more familiar with how it works for baseball, but I know in some cases an NAIA school can have upwards of 60 kids in their programs. So I would assume NAIA basketball programs do similar sorts of things with regards to how many kids are in the program. They may have 25 kids in the program as opposed to NCAA which is 15.