September 17, 201511 yr If history is an indicator, you can throw out Carson and Fiorina once the primaries get under way in February. That's because only white males have ever won a state GOP presidential primary. That is not a shocking stat. Before the '08 election, how many non-whites or females ever won a state presidential primary for Democrats? Didn't Jesse Jackson in '84? Besides that have there been any?
September 17, 201511 yr With you on all points. In thinking about it, what would be a good way for her to respond to the HP questions? She was fired. I guess just take it head on better and say, "Look, I was fired. It happens in the corporate business world. I've bounced back and learned from any mistakes that led to my termination." Either way she is in a pickle with that blemish. The highlighting of the previous board member that says he regrets the decision comes off weak and calculated. The perfect response would be talk about all the other great people who have been fired and gone onto greatness. Steve Jobs being fired from his own company at Apple would be a start.
September 17, 201511 yr If history is an indicator, you can throw out Carson and Fiorina once the primaries get under way in February. That's because only white males have ever won a state GOP presidential primary. Let's look at the stage last night. GOP had two Latin Americans , a woman , a black man and a candidate who married a Latino and has Latino children. Please stop with the past defines today.
September 17, 201511 yr With you on all points. In thinking about it, what would be a good way for her to respond to the HP questions? She was fired. I guess just take it head on better and say, "Look, I was fired. It happens in the corporate business world. I've bounced back and learned from any mistakes that led to my termination." Either way she is in a pickle with that blemish. The highlighting of the previous board member that says he regrets the decision comes off weak and calculated. If I advised her I would tell her to never say the word "fired" again. She could say something like "CEOs don't stay forever" or "my time ended there" instead. The tricky part for her isn't that she was fired, it's the performance of the company and the layoffs. She has to defend her work there in a way that accounts for the dip in the stock price and the layoffs. I hate that politics is this superficial, but that's how it is. If she gets into a long disquisition on the tech bubble and corporate re-structuring she's lost the audience.
September 17, 201511 yr Let's look at the stage last night. GOP had two Latin Americans , a woman , a black man and a candidate who married a Latino and has Latino children. Please stop with the past defines today. Your shout-out is meaningless until a black or female GOP candidate actually wins a state GOP presidential primary. Ain't never happened, and I don't see it happening in '16 either. If I'm wrong, then forecast which primaries Fiorina or Carson will win.
September 17, 201511 yr If she wins the nomination and faces off with Hillary , and Hillary brings up HP it should be a softball answer for Carly . Well Mrs. Clinton you want to talk about troubles in the past let's take a look at yours ......
September 17, 201511 yr Your shout-out is meaningless until a black or female GOP candidate actually wins a state GOP presidential primary. Ain't never happened, and I don't see it happening in '16 either. If I'm wrong, then forecast which primaries Fiorina or Carson will win. We aren't there yet ? Do Latino's not count as minorities ? Fironia has very good shot in NH . It will on depend who is in the race. Carson is currently #2 so I would think he has a shot anywhere.
September 17, 201511 yr By the way, as we sit here an examine how the candidates did and how it might impact the race have a look at this. The people doing these searches are voting.
September 17, 201511 yr That is not a shocking stat. Before the '08 election, how many non-whites or females ever won a state presidential primary for Democrats? Didn't Jesse Jackson in '84? Besides that have there been any? Shirley Chisholm, a black female, won the New Jersey Democratic primary in 1972. Having noted that, I agree with your central point. White males have dominated state presidential primaries in both parties. Obama's nomination in '08 was a game-changer. The Republicans have no such redefining moment, unless you want to point to the ill-advised selection of Sarah Palin as VP nominee in '08.
September 17, 201511 yr We aren't there yet ? Do Latino's not count as minorities ? Fironia has very good shot in NH . It will on depend who is in the race. Carson is currently #2 so I would think he has a shot anywhere. Call me day or night when a non-white male wins a GOP state primary. What's going on now is a sideshow to the main event.
September 17, 201511 yr Call me day or night when a non-white male wins a GOP state primary. What's going on now is a sideshow to the main event. So again I ask if Rubio wins would you not count him as a minority candidate ?
September 17, 201511 yr I'm a Paul guy. I thought he did very good. But as someone who didn't even consider Fironia prior I'm 100% thinking about it now. She was strong . Very strong. Rubio has to be on the ticket one way or the other. I'm not worried about the GOP when the top two candidates for the Democrats are a socialist and someone being investigated by the FBI. I wasn't worried in 2012 that Obama would get a second term. Sadly, I have little confidence in the American voter.
September 17, 201511 yr So again I ask if Rubio wins would you not count him as a minority candidate ? He most certainly would unless Latinos are not considered minorities. Ted Cruz is Latino as well for those that didn't know.
September 17, 201511 yr He most certainly would unless Latinos are not considered minorities. Ted Cruz is Latino as well for those that didn't know. I know that and agree. I'm just noticing he keeps leaving them out and so I had to ask.
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