I was intentionally vague because I think the "culture" encompasses so many facets.

Coaching transition, parent involvement, years of domination by a rival, where players are drawn from, the focus on basketball, new facilities, strength of schedule, the rumor of players quiting at half time during the beechwood game, coaching turn over, player expectation and attitude, etc all positively or negatively impact the success of the program. I'm just saying the positive aspect need to be retained and the negatives weeded out.

 

With the emergence of strong programs in Boone county, does Cov Cath get as many BC players as they used to? I was told they do not.

 

You said you were concerned about the culture. How does this impact culture and what exactly are you hoping improves regarding where kids come from?

 

I'd ask the same about your comment about basketball.

With the emergence of strong programs in Boone county, does Cov Cath get as many BC players as they used to? I was told they do not.

 

Yes - got a record group of incoming Frosh that came in this year. Got almost half the boys attending IHM which traditionally matriculate to St Henry.

Are you talking about a Blue collar/ White collar thing in regards to culture?

Just to reiterate. I started this thread to discuss CCHs struggles and why they aren't performing well. Although the title suggests that, I didn't start this thread to complain about how they suck because some of you people seem to think that. That's all I have to say. And about this Ryle HHS thing. Who knows?

Yes - got a record group of incoming Frosh that came in this year. Got almost half the boys attending IHM which traditionally matriculate to St Henry.

Are you talking about a Blue collar/ White collar thing in regards to culture?

I do think that is of concern as well. I know that more students are on tuition assistance than ever, but the tuition is also higher than ever.

The question from MTGL was re: Cov Cath, not Ryle. He actually specifically said he would "...like to hear less about Highlands and Ryle."

 

Oh misread sorry

Cov cath is not struggling. They are playing a very tough schedule. If they get through it without anymore injuries they will be a very tough out come playoff time. May even win the district. Even though Ryle won it wasn't because we didn't play well. They had a great game plan and executed fairly well. Cov Cath played hard and was in it to the last tick. We just made a few plays in the end that made the difference. They are a good ball club. Don't let the record fool you.

I do think that is of concern as well. I know that more students are on tuition assistance than ever, but the tuition is also higher than ever.

 

How about this? Since you made the claim about needing the culture to be better can you give clear details?

 

Are you saying CCH is now a "rich school?" What is the concern about basketball?

 

Don't throw it out there and then not tell us what we should be concerned with .

How about this? Since you made the claim about needing the culture to be better can you give clear details?

 

Are you saying CCH is now a "rich school?" What is the concern about basketball?

 

Don't throw it out there and then not tell us what we should be concerned with .

 

I'm truly honored you care so much about what I think. The basketball program is awesome. They are doing some great things. I think the school's intention is to emulate their approach and success. That could very well be a positive or a negative for the football program.

What am I not commenting on? I've defined what I think makes up the programs "culture." Whatever you want to call it...it hasn't worked in 8 years and some changes need to be made. You think that a difference in talent alone resulted in the losses to St. X and Sycamore. I think the team could have played much better than they did. Obviously Cov Cath was not going to come close to winning, but I think they could have gritted out a better performance for themselves.

I'm truly honored you care so much about what I think. The basketball program is awesome. They are doing some great things. I think the school's intention is to emulate their approach and success. That could very well be a positive or a negative for the football program.

What am I not commenting on? I've defined what I think makes up the programs "culture." Whatever you want to call it...it hasn't worked in 8 years and some changes need to be made. You think that a difference in talent alone resulted in the losses to St. X and Sycamore. I think the team could have played much better than they did. Obviously Cov Cath was not going to come close to winning, but I think they could have gritted out a better performance for themselves.

 

Don't get on here being vague with accusations about problems with "culture" and then take offense when someone asks you to explain yourself.

 

You still haven't explained the problems with where the kids come from or why basketball may have a negative impact on the culture.

First of all, unlike you, I'm not "taking offense" to ANYTHING I read on an Internet forum. My "truly honored" comment should have been "truly amazed." Second, I challenge you to point to where I described the basketball program as being a negative? I said it was an aspect (positive or negative) and I stand by that. Third, I hope every student that passes the placement test and truly wants to come to Cov Cath does so. The student body helps make up the "culture." The more students that want to go to school and play football at CCH...the better.

 

I'm wondering why you are laser focused on 2 small aspects that I listed? What are you not commenting on?

You said "I am concerned about the culture of the school."

 

Interesting comment. Maybe you're very close to the program and have some insight. Saying you're concerned about the "culture of the school" isn't a positive so you've got our curiosity piqued.

 

I was intentionally vague because I think the "culture" encompasses so many facets.

Coaching transition, parent involvement, years of domination by a rival, where players are drawn from, the focus on basketball, new facilities, strength of schedule, the rumor of players quiting at half time during the beechwood game, coaching turn over, player expectation and attitude, etc all positively or negatively impact the success of the program. I'm just saying the positive aspect need to be retained and the negatives weeded out.

 

When asked what you mean you list a large group of factors. Some are obvious when it comes to culture: change of coaches/being dominated by HHS/players reportedly quitting mid-season.

 

BUT you also list some items that are NEVER associated with a school's culture or at least in the general terms you listed:

 

New facilities

Basketball program

 

and then say they all factor in but you never said which ones of that basket of options causes you concern about the "culture of the school."

 

All I'm asking is for you to not leave people wondering which are the areas that make you concerned and WHY.

 

Simple.

With the emergence of strong programs in Boone county, does Cov Cath get as many BC players as they used to? I was told they do not.

 

Perfect example. Does this somehow impact culture? Or is it just a concern about talent levels?

 

You may be 1000% right on your concerns. However, you just can't throw a bunch of potential culture problems out there and then be vague.

 

They're valid concerns in your mind. Tell us which are and why.

There were several problems these last couple years correct? It ultimately culminated in half the team threatening to quit during half time, of a game against a rival school. All kinds of things were going on that were counter productive to success, according to an unbiased parent whose judgement I trust. A former colonel, who knows the program inside an out, has voiced concern...so I share his concern. I'm no closer to the program than you are. I don't understand why it is sooooo earth shattering that I question the "culture" of a program when half of the team almost a quits....during a game? Something positive is not happening when this occurs.

There were several problems these last couple years correct? It ultimately culminated in half the team threatening to quit during half time, of a game against a rival school. All kinds of things were going on that were counter productive to success, according to an unbiased parent whose judgement I trust. A former colonel, who knows the program inside an out, has voiced concern...so I share his concern. I'm no closer to the program than you are. I don't understand why it is sooooo earth shattering that I question the "culture" of a program when half of the team almost a quits....during a game? Something positive is not happening when this occurs.

 

You are obviously closer than I am. I can see that you don't want to comment in detail.

 

Cool. I'd just be careful about what you post that can leave people to wonder what exactly is going on. It tends to lead people to exaggerate the real problems and then it snowballs from there.

You are obviously closer than I am. I can see that you don't want to comment in detail.

 

Cool. I'd just be careful about what you post that can leave people to wonder what exactly is going on. It tends to lead people to exaggerate the real problems and then it snowballs from there.

You know the same people of which I'm referring. EVERYONE knows about the Beechwood game last year. I have no idea of what is currently going on, other than it didn't seem like the same team that played ryle, played the cincinnati schools. I'm just saying that a team wanting to quit mid-game last year is kinda a big deal.

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There were several problems these last couple years correct? It ultimately culminated in half the team threatening to quit during half time, of a game against a rival school. All kinds of things were going on that were counter productive to success, according to an unbiased parent whose judgement I trust. A former colonel, who knows the program inside an out, has voiced concern...so I share his concern. I'm no closer to the program than you are. I don't understand why it is sooooo earth shattering that I question the "culture" of a program when half of the team almost a quits....during a game? Something positive is not happening when this occurs.

 

"Several problems these last couple years"? What problems this year aside from the losses? Half the team quitting at half time last year? No- not even close. You have some really bad info coming from an "unbiased parent." There were some bad vibes in the post Highlands loss going into Beechwood no doubt, but that staff is entirely gone so I'm not sure what kind of impact you think last year has on this year. I have seen and heard nothing but positive from this staff and these kids. Sure they are torn up about losing - but what competitive team wouldn't be?