August 12, 201511 yr Bottom line is that this is still the Bengals and Mike Brown and this organization do not conform to anything that the rest of the league does. As long as Mike Brown is the owner and makes all the decisions this team will continue to do things his way and we all know that. He doesn't care about winning a championship or keeping his fans happy. He will do what the league rules mandate as far as spending money and as long as he makes money he could care less if the team even goes to the playoffs. He will keep Marvin around because he is a "yes" man and doesn't make waves. Marvin will probably retire in Cincinnati as long as he doesn't go 4-12 for multiple years. Mike Brown will pay certain players but he will NEVER pay backups thus they will never have backups who can come in and do a good job for a starter should they go down with an injury. If you haven't gotten used to it yet this is what you are going to get from Mike Brown for a team and you will have to deal with it. It will never get any better than what it is today as long as he is in charge.
August 13, 201511 yr Bottom line is that this is still the Bengals and Mike Brown and this organization do not conform to anything that the rest of the league does. As long as Mike Brown is the owner and makes all the decisions this team will continue to do things his way and we all know that. He doesn't care about winning a championship or keeping his fans happy. He will do what the league rules mandate as far as spending money and as long as he makes money he could care less if the team even goes to the playoffs. He will keep Marvin around because he is a "yes" man and doesn't make waves. Marvin will probably retire in Cincinnati as long as he doesn't go 4-12 for multiple years. Mike Brown will pay certain players but he will NEVER pay backups thus they will never have backups who can come in and do a good job for a starter should they go down with an injury. If you haven't gotten used to it yet this is what you are going to get from Mike Brown for a team and you will have to deal with it. It will never get any better than what it is today as long as he is in charge. With all do respect, you must not follow Bengals football at all. If you did, you would know that Mike Brown has pretty much turned over all control to Marvin Lewis and Duke Tobin when it comes to personnel positions and day-to-day operations. In addition, the claim that Mike Brown only cares about the team generating revenue is far-fetched. The Bengals on average actually have one of the lowest ticket prices in the NFL. Not to mention he just put in brand new HD video boards (even if it took him longer than it should have). In addition, your claim that the Bengals do not have adequate back-ups is simply untrue. Anyone around the league will tell you that the Bengals have a top 10 roster at worst. Many will tell you that its top 5 and some have even considered it to be a top 2 roster in the entire NFL. To be clear, I am not defending Marvin Lewis as a coach or his failures in primetime and postseason games. However, I think you should give credit where it's due and like it or not, Marvin Lewis is one of the better talent evaluators in the NFL today. The 2015 roster is the most talented and complete he has ever assembled in Cincy. If you need proof, look at the success of Bengals draft picks from the last 4-5 years. Not only have they hit on their early round picks, they have also gotten great value and returns from players drafted in later rounds. While your sentiments may have held true 10 years ago, they are far from reality now. Mike Brown does care about winning and truly wants to bring a Lombardi Trophy to Cincinnati. Edited August 13, 201511 yr by Cuban Missile Grammar/Sentence Structure
August 14, 201511 yr With all do respect, you must not follow Bengals football at all. If you did, you would know that Mike Brown has pretty much turned over all control to Marvin Lewis and Duke Tobin when it comes to personnel positions and day-to-day operations. In addition, the claim that Mike Brown only cares about the team generating revenue is far-fetched. The Bengals on average actually have one of the lowest ticket prices in the NFL. Not to mention he just put in brand new HD video boards (even if it took him longer than it should have). In addition, your claim that the Bengals do not have adequate back-ups is simply untrue. Anyone around the league will tell you that the Bengals have a top 10 roster at worst. Many will tell you that its top 5 and some have even considered it to be a top 2 roster in the entire NFL. To be clear, I am not defending Marvin Lewis as a coach or his failures in primetime and postseason games. However, I think you should give credit where it's due and like it or not, Marvin Lewis is one of the better talent evaluators in the NFL today. The 2015 roster is the most talented and complete he has ever assembled in Cincy. If you need proof, look at the success of Bengals draft picks from the last 4-5 years. Not only have they hit on their early round picks, they have also gotten great value and returns from players drafted in later rounds. While your sentiments may have held true 10 years ago, they are far from reality now. Mike Brown does care about winning and truly wants to bring a Lombardi Trophy to Cincinnati. Keep drinking the Mike Brown Kool-Aid and wearing your Bengal blinders. You can tell me that there are those who say this and those that say that but show me something from somebody that knows what they are talking about regarding their roster. Why do you think it is that every time someone on the O-line goes down the offense goes south? Because the lowly paid backups come in and can't perform anywhere near the starter. Most of the backups on the O-line came off somebody's scrap heap. Take a look at the salaries across the O-line and see if what I say isn't true. I will give you one thing that you said that they are doing a better job of evaluating talent and utilizing the draft but if you really think that Marvin has all this control guess again. Mike Brown is the boss and Marvin does what Mikey says. As far as coaching goes if they have all this talent that you say the league says they have why can't they win a playoff game under Marvin?
August 14, 201511 yr Keep drinking the Mike Brown Kool-Aid and wearing your Bengal blinders. You can tell me that there are those who say this and those that say that but show me something from somebody that knows what they are talking about regarding their roster. Why do you think it is that every time someone on the O-line goes down the offense goes south? Because the lowly paid backups come in and can't perform anywhere near the starter. Most of the backups on the O-line came off somebody's scrap heap. Take a look at the salaries across the O-line and see if what I say isn't true. I will give you one thing that you said that they are doing a better job of evaluating talent and utilizing the draft but if you really think that Marvin has all this control guess again. Mike Brown is the boss and Marvin does what Mikey says. As far as coaching goes if they have all this talent that you say the league says they have why can't they win a playoff game under Marvin? I would be more than happy to post these for you sometime tomorrow from NFL analyst who have said this about their roster. It is the same thing they been saying for the last three years regarding this team. Shoot I think the depth actually showed last year considering they had more key injuries than most teams last year and still made the playoffs. So you do kind of look out of place with your depth comments, considering they showed they had good enough depth to still make the playoffs even with all the injuries. Then even with that they added even more depth for this year at linebacker, O line and D line. I said this the other day to Mal. I love it when people make comments like this about drinking the the Kook-aid or looking through Bengal Blinders and then act like they are the ones with a realistic view point lol. You do realize the majority of the years of being bad can give you a very bias negative opinion of a team and stop you from seeing the team from a realistic view point. Here is a very realistic look at this team and many experts have said this. The Bengals do have the talent, and are one of the deepest rosters in the NFL. So when looking at that, there is no reason not to get it done. However in the NFL you have to have a QB who can make plays in the playoffs when it matters and a coach who can make good adjustments. Those are the two spots that hurt this team. This is a good team, but may not be good enough to get over the hump for the two reasons I said. However to say that this is not a good team, is not looking at it with a realistic view point.
August 14, 201511 yr Didn't realize this was the same team and players over the last 20 years. I felt like most of the current players who make up the team have been apart of 4 straight playoff teams. Which would show that they are not a bad team. A bad franchise yes, because as a franchise you can take all the years into account and as a franchise they have overall sucked. However as a current team of players that make it up they do not and facts do back that up. Bad teams don't make playoffs 4 straight years. But hey continue with with the bias negative opinion that is effected by the overall franchise sucking, and thinking that makes your opinion realistic. How about this. They are good enough to get in the playoffs, but not good enough to win in the playoffs, even at home. We getting closer?
August 15, 201511 yr How about this. They are good enough to get in the playoffs, but not good enough to win in the playoffs, even at home. We getting closer? Cant disagree with that.
August 15, 201511 yr I would be more than happy to post these for you sometime tomorrow from NFL analyst who have said this about their roster. It is the same thing they been saying for the last three years regarding this team. Shoot I think the depth actually showed last year considering they had more key injuries than most teams last year and still made the playoffs. So you do kind of look out of place with your depth comments, considering they showed they had good enough depth to still make the playoffs even with all the injuries. Then even with that they added even more depth for this year at linebacker, O line and D line. I said this the other day to Mal. I love it when people make comments like this about drinking the the Kook-aid or looking through Bengal Blinders and then act like they are the ones with a realistic view point lol. You do realize the majority of the years of being bad can give you a very bias negative opinion of a team and stop you from seeing the team from a realistic view point. Here is a very realistic look at this team and many experts have said this. The Bengals do have the talent, and are one of the deepest rosters in the NFL. So when looking at that, there is no reason not to get it done. However in the NFL you have to have a QB who can make plays in the playoffs when it matters and a coach who can make good adjustments. Those are the two spots that hurt this team. This is a good team, but may not be good enough to get over the hump for the two reasons I said. However to say that this is not a good team, is not looking at it with a realistic view point. I am anxiously awaiting this information, and I did agree with you on the recent drafting and talent evaluation. As for the depth can you tell me where Winston came from last year when Andre Smith went down with a hangnail injury?
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