Just because someone questions police tactics does not make them a police hater. I feel as though it is important in this time of shrinking civil liberties to question authority and the use of force.

 

I agree.

 

Just because someone questions police tactics does not make them a police hater. I feel as though it is important in this time of shrinking civil liberties to question authority and the use of force.

 

Likewise, because someone doesn't immediately condemn every officer accused of something that doesn't make them a blind police supporter.

 

With that said, there are hate groups dedicated to hating police in this country. Cop block is one.

Wait, so because there were only 1,491 deaths because of police force in a three year period we should all feel better? :lol2:

 

Am I misinterpreting the premise of this thread? Is this a "it's not as bad as people think"'kind of thread?

Wait, so because there were only 1,491 deaths because of police force in a three year period we should all feel better? :lol2:

 

Am I misinterpreting the premise of this thread? Is this a "it's not as bad as people think"'kind of thread?

 

Wait, you think the police wanted to kill 1400 people?

 

I'd argue the overwhelming majority of those people were not killed because of the police. They were killed because of their own actions. (I think over 40,000 police were assaulted in that same time period)

 

You are just as likely to die by a lightning strike.

 

You are far more likely to be murdered by a civilian. You are just as likely to be killed by a civilian in self defense.

Wait, so because there were only 1,491 deaths because of police force in a three year period we should all feel better? :lol2:

 

Am I misinterpreting the premise of this thread? Is this a "it's not as bad as people think"'kind of thread?

 

We have hordes of lawyers looking at every police shooting for any wrongdoing on the part of the police so my assertion is if anyone is really concerned about the loss of life in this country there are much better causes for individual citizens to take up.

 

With that said, we all need to pay attention to what the police are doing.

I think the narrative is false. I don't think a very high % of people think that there are a large number of unjustified killings at the hands of officers.

 

When there is more than 1 case of police vs black male in a relatively short period of time and some have very questionable circumstances (Baltimore) then there is going to be a lot of attention and deservedly so.

 

This presentation felt like a PR move to me.

Wait, you think the police wanted to kill 1400 people?

 

I'd argue the overwhelming majority of those people were not killed because of the police. They were killed because of their own actions. (I think over 40,000 police were assaulted in that same time period)

 

You are just as likely to die by a lightning strike.

 

You are far more likely to be murdered by a civilian. You are just as likely to be killed by a civilian in self defense.

 

That's up to the jury. When the case actually makes it to a trial.

 

I fear cops, being outside in severe thunderstorms, unsafe neighborhoods, sketchy people, murky ocean water and people who can't drive.

If the audience for that study was the black community then a)it may be eye-opening to many but b)there is so much distrust that facts will be questioned.

 

THAT is what police have to overcome. Mistrust.

I think the narrative is false. I don't think a very high % of people think that there are a large number of unjustified killings at the hands of officers.

 

When there is more than 1 case of police vs black male in a relatively short period of time and some have very questionable circumstances (Baltimore) then there is going to be a lot of attention and deservedly so.

 

This presentation felt like a PR move to me.

 

You said it in a more politically correct manner than myself. I don't care to be politically correct though.

If the audience for that study was the black community then a)it may be eye-opening to many but b)there is so much distrust that facts will be questioned.

 

THAT is what police have to overcome. Mistrust.

 

And to a lot of policemen's credit more often than not they do a good job of trying to overcome that mistrust.

 

That needs to be said and acknowledged by people as well.

Wait, so because there were only 1,491 deaths because of police force in a three year period we should all feel better? :lol2:

 

Am I misinterpreting the premise of this thread? Is this a "it's not as bad as people think"'kind of thread?

 

I would say it is bad but not as bad as the media or the Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton types portray. It will never go down to zero but hopefully want can make progress in continually decreasing the deaths.

I would say it is bad but not as bad as the media or the Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton types portray. It will never go down to zero but hopefully want can make progress in continually decreasing the deaths.

 

Agree 100%.

I would say it is bad but not as bad as the media or the Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton types portray. It will never go down to zero but hopefully want can make progress in continually decreasing the deaths.

 

If the media reports on a case like Michael Brown or the Baltimore case how are they falsely presenting the scope?

If the audience for that study was the black community then a)it may be eye-opening to many but b)there is so much distrust that facts will be questioned.

 

THAT is what police have to overcome. Mistrust.

 

I agree and that is exactly why (from a management standpoint) police departments in America need to be more para-military/Independent and less political. And I am fine with competent civilian review boards and/or other types of checks and balances for police departments that are fair and impartial.

If the media reports on a case like Michael Brown or the Baltimore case how are they falsely presenting the scope?

 

The media is only going to portray what brings in viewers or supports their agenda. Fanning the flames gets us nowhere and more often than not the media only shows one side of the story. Makes it hard for folks on the outside to get a true scope of what happened and then people's opinions become facts. Dialogue is then ruined.