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Examining the Prevalence of Deaths from Police Use of Force

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I agree and that is exactly why (from a management standpoint) police departments in America need to be more para-military/Independent and less political. And I am fine with competent civilian review boards and/or other types of checks and balances for police departments that are fair and impartial.

 

 

Give examples of what you mean by "para-military/independent."

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The media is only going to portray what brings in viewers or supports their agenda. Fanning the flames gets us nowhere and more often than not the media only shows one side of the story. Makes it hard for folks on the outside to get a true scope of what happened and then people's opinions become facts. Dialogue is then ruined.

 

So are we talking about news organizations reporting the story or are we talking about "talking heads" like Maddow/Hannity/Limbaugh?

Give examples of what you mean by "para-military/independent."

 

Free from political influence as much as humanly possible. Not heavy handed and/or elitist.

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I think the narrative is false. I don't think a very high % of people think that there are a large number of unjustified killings at the hands of officers.

 

When there is more than 1 case of police vs black male in a relatively short period of time and some have very questionable circumstances (Baltimore) then there is going to be a lot of attention and deservedly so.

 

This presentation felt like a PR move to me.

 

It refutes the bull put out on the internets these days. A lot of people, some here, think police are unjustly killing a lot of people.

It refutes the bull put out on the internets these days. A lot of people, some here, think police are unjustly killing a lot of people.

 

I don't believe the " a lot" part.

 

You will always have those that are simply uneducated on a subject. That's a never-ending situation.

It refutes the bull put out on the internets these days. A lot of people, some here, think police are unjustly killing a lot of people.

 

I haven't seen a single person on here say police are unjustly killing a lot of people.

 

It does happen though, as the South Carolina incident is proof of, and should be brought to the forefront every time it does.

I haven't seen a single person on here say police are unjustly killing a lot of people.

 

It does happen though, as the South Carolina incident is proof of, and should be brought to the forefront every time it does.

 

Shocking to me. That dude is a straight up murderer.

So are we talking about news organizations reporting the story or are we talking about "talking heads" like Maddow/Hannity/Limbaugh?

 

I was talking about all of them. They all have common sense and they all know when they are fanning the flames and being controversial and not presenting all of the facts. When was the last time anyone in the media even suggested that we wait for all of the facts to come out before we jump to conclusions? They all report the story as "they see it" and go after ratings and play to their viewers all of the time.

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I don't believe the " a lot" part.

 

You will always have those that are simply uneducated on a subject. That's a never-ending situation.

 

What do you consider a lot?

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I haven't seen a single person on here say police are unjustly killing a lot of people.

 

It does happen though, as the South Carolina incident is proof of, and should be brought to the forefront every time it does.

 

It happens less often than someone being killed by lightning.

 

But yeah, it happens.

It happens less often than someone being killed by lightning.

 

But yeah, it happens.

 

I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.

 

It happens, everyone knows it, and it happens too often.

I was talking about all of them. They all have common sense and they all know when they are fanning the flames and being controversial and not presenting all of the facts. When was the last time anyone in the media even suggested that we wait for all of the facts to come out before we jump to conclusions? They all report the story as "they see it" and go after ratings and play to their viewers all of the time.

 

I wish more/any news outlets would do a point/counterpoint newscast each day where they genuinely try to present both sides of an issue.

 

And please don't Q-up any weekend update clips. Just keep them in mind.

I mentioned "trust" previously. It only takes a few instances to lose that trust .

 

Incidents like this one where an officer was demoted for criticizing techniques used by a colleague when a drunk kid drowned give pause to many when they wonder if police are truly looking to get better.

 

Missouri trooper who spoke out after drowning demoted

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I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.

 

It happens, everyone knows it, and it happens too often.

 

One is too many. But do the lives of those murdered by a rogue police officer matter more than the thousands and thousands murdered by someone else?

 

Investigate every police shooting. Put body cameras on them. Punish the ones who are wrong. But let's not pretend it happens more than it does.

I wish more/any news outlets would do a point/counterpoint newscast each day where they genuinely try to present both sides of an issue.

 

And please don't Q-up any weekend update clips. Just keep them in mind.

 

Their audiences do not want to see both sides. They want to see their beliefs reinforced.

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